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re: How many of you will be upset if/when Ukraine thwarts Russia?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Holy Jesus, you have got to be fricking kidding me! If you are that ill-informed do to the bullshite we've been flooded with, there is absolutely no hope for average IQ folks out there.
We survived it once already without issue. I'm confident we can do it again.
Let's just say a person would have better placed confidence in using an umbrella to break a 40-story fall.
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:24 pm to SDVTiger
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I dont give a shite who would As long as it got done and avoided war Any rational person who doeant have a ukraine flag on his twitter bio agrees
You really have no clue.
Russia after breaking numerous agreements involving Ukraine invades and you believe Ukraine should stop defending themselves because Russia says they will stop fighting IF..,
No competent leader in Ukraine could cut that deal, a deal that would inevitably lead to Russia taking over Ukraine by force.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:27 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Holy Jesus, you have got to be fricking kidding me! If you are that ill-informed do to the bullshite we've been flooded with, there is absolutely no hope for average IQ folks out there.
Let's just say a person would have better placed confidence in using an umbrella to break a 40-story fall.
I have asked this multiple times in this thread with no response, so I'll give it another try:
Based on your concerns, is there ever a behavior or set of behaviors Russia can engage in to justify a response?
It seems that the fact that Russia has nukes and claims they will use them would create a red line in every situation.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Nothing is for sure, Neville.
Well that's for sure Russia losing
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:29 pm to SDVTiger
quote:
Yup. And we clipped it
No, literally every article that discussed Johnson's visit in April talked about that stipulation.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:31 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
WTF is it that you don't get about the dangers of instability surrounding the world's largest cache of nuclear weapons.
SFP is largely a solid poster but there is a vein of surprising flippancy that runs through him on some major issues that compromises his views and it is coupled with a bit of arrogance that precludes him from further and full self examination and introspection.
But he’s always good for a conversation.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Not sure I understand the question, or that I'm terribly interested wasting my time answering again.
Based on your concerns, is there ever a behavior or set of behaviors Russia can engage in to justify a response?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:33 pm to doubleb
quote:
You really have no clue. Russia after breaking numerous agreements involving Ukraine invades and you believe Ukraine should stop defending themselves because Russia says they will stop fighting IF.., No competent leader in Ukraine could cut that deal, a deal that would inevitably lead to Russia taking over Ukraine by force.
Do you know what the Minsk Agreements are?
Don’t google it before replying.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your tacit endorsement of money laundering of taxpayer dollars via "aid" to Ukraine must be a kind of Stockholm Syndrome high water mark.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:34 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:
SFP is largely a solid poster but there is a vein of surprising flippancy that runs through him on some major issues that compromises his views and it is coupled with a bit of arrogance that precludes him from further and full self examination and introspection.
But he’s always good for a conversation.
We literally dealt with Russian-led areas denuclearize previously.
shite, and somewhat ironically, if that had gone slightly different (and Ukraine kept its nukes), Russia for sure wouldn't be invading today
Having to do this again, with a much stronger international community than in the 90s, isn't scary to me.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:35 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:Absolutely.
SFP is largely a solid poster
My concern is if he's this taken by the news propaganda cesspool, normal folks have no chance.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Why is that?
shite, and somewhat ironically, if that had gone slightly different (and Ukraine kept its nukes), Russia for sure wouldn't be invading today
Think carefully about what the next question is.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:37 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Not sure I understand the question
Russia has nukes.
Russia will always threaten to use nukes if its traditional military starts to fail.
So, given that as an absolute, EVERY scenario involving Russian aggression will lead to a threat of Russia using nukes?
Since this is your primary concern, is there ever a justification for responding to Russian aggression, considering any successful response puts nukes on the table.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:38 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Why is that?
Because Russia would be too big of pussies to do anything to them in that instance. They wouldn't be acting like the paper tiger they are.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:39 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
this taken by the news propaganda
Shocking considering the only news I read is posted on this board, and it's not exactly Pro-Ukraine around here
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
So, given that as an absolute, EVERY scenario involving Russian aggression will lead to a threat of Russia using nukes?
It only takes once.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:40 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
It only takes once.
Exactly, which means we should never, under any circumstance, oppose any aggression by Russia.
It only takes once, you know.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
And to avoid a conflated gotcha: I will be upset if Russia uses nukes. It will make them an even bigger evil party than I could imagine. Since we're on that topic, since Russia will always threaten using nukes, is there ever a legitimate reason to oppose any actions of Russia? North Korea? China? Iran?
I seriously doubt if 5% of America First patriots care who prevails in the Russia/Ukraine shite show….we’re pissed off because were literally pissing away tens of billions of taxpayer money fighting a proxy war that doesn’t benefit street level Americans.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:43 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
It only takes once.
Please god think this through. Didn't I already post the Yes Prime Minister clip at you?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Sooo ... to be clear ... You think because Russia has Nukes and Ukraine doesn't, that Russia would use Nukes against Ukraine?
Because Russia would be too big of pussies to do anything to them in that instance.
They'd do that because they assume the US and NATO "would be too big of pussies to do anything to them"?
Do I have that right?
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