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re: How many of you will be upset if/when Ukraine thwarts Russia?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
I thought your previous submission for the stupidest thread of the year (Biden's fighting the globalist by hitting Nord 1 and 2) was your best shot, but you had an ace up your sleeve.
Bravo.
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:50 pm to SDVTiger
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No all they negotiated was land and Ukraine not joining Nato
Nope. That negotiation was predicated on security guarantees for Ukraine.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
I couldn’t care less about Russia or Ukraine
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:52 pm to crazy4lsu
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Nope
Yup. And we clipped it
Now you are all for war. Sad but not suprising
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:56 pm to Turbeauxdog
If you support Ukraine,you support human trafficking,the production of bioengineered diseases, money laundering for the DS,nazis all on a large scale,so russia has nothing to negotiate,they have an objective,to destroy all their system there are few targets left,the news you hear about battles are all lies,as for the money,its probably central banks money if any,we dont know if it true or not,trump is head of the treasury,we are no longer part of the federal rewserve.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
She had kind of a childish article the other day that you should think before saying the conflict was unprovoked. But, she didn't actually get into details. However, she did have a good piece a while back that the U.S. should have worked with Zelensky to snuff out the far-right shite stirrers.
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That's what rational actors would do. But, hey, using them as a tool against Russia is the type of thing we always do.
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That's what rational actors would do. But, hey, using them as a tool against Russia is the type of thing we always do.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:59 pm to Bayoutigre
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If you support Ukraine,you support human trafficking,the production of bioengineered diseases, money laundering for the DS,nazis all on a large scale,
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russia has nothing to negotiate,they have an objective,to destroy all their system there are few targets left
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,the news you hear about battles are all lies,as for the money,its probably central banks money if any,we dont know if it true or not,trump is head of the treasury,we are no longer part of the federal rewserve.
Championship
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:59 pm to GnashRebel
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WWII would have cost us way less if we supported non aggressive nations earlier
We supported those nations economically and materially from the jump!
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Just to be clear, it's fairly likely you will be vaporized if they use nukes. The thought of death by vaporization would 'upset' most folks, so you're not alone.
I will be upset if Russia uses nukes.
quote:I couldn't care less who wins, who loses, and by how much or how little. I just want the most stable post-war situation we can get out of this manure pile we had a hand in creating.
How many of you will be upset if/when Ukraine thwarts Russia?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:01 pm to Bunk Moreland
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U.S. should have worked with Zelensky to snuff out the far-right shite stirrers.
I don't disagree with that, but that's still just primarily a Russian-based talking point (much more legitimate than "bio labs" or other Russian talking points, but still of little consequence in the actual big picture).
Note: I believe the "NATO" talking points are of the same mold. They just stuck the best in the West (for obvious reasons).
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:03 pm to SDVTiger
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No all they negotiated was land and Ukraine not joining Nato
And who was going to enforce the peace? The same triumvirate that pledged to defend Ukraine’s sovereignty?
The faux treaty you tout was never going to fly because it would have been just as good as the piece of paper Neville Chamberlain came home with. Any clear thinking individual knows that.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:05 pm to doubleb
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And who was going to enforce the peace?
I dont give a shite who would
As long as it got done and avoided war
Any rational person who doeant have a ukraine flag on his twitter bio agrees
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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U.S. should have worked with Zelensky to snuff out the far-right shite stirrers.
Zelensky is one of them,nothing to negotiate,russia has no reason to use nukes,only a scare,although tactical nukes probably used in the underground,same as the US is doing now
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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will be sad/mad if Putin is assassinated I want Putin to rule over a Russia devolving into the standard of living of the Congo
Why? The Russian people deserve freedom and prosperity just as much as anyone. Cant hate them for decisions made by corrupt leadership
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:09 pm to SDVTiger
you dont negotiate with evil,you destroy it.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:11 pm to Bunk Moreland
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With that out of the way, it’s just a simple fact that for a fraction of the military firepower the US is pouring into Ukraine right now, it could have prevented the entire war by simply protecting Ukrainian democracy from the undemocratic impulses of the worst people in that country.
Wait. She thinks Russia wouldn't have invaded had the US gotten involved with Azov? THAT is fricking clown shoes.
Reading her 10/2 article
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It is therefore no exaggeration to say that the human species has a vested interest in de-escalation and detente right away. Avoiding nuclear war is the single most important agenda in the entire world, without exception. It is the single most important agenda that has ever existed in all of history.
But whenever you advocate for this supremely important agenda in any kind of public forum, you get a bunch of brainwashed empire automatons bleating about “appeasement” and accusing you of supporting a monstrous madman. And they do this because that’s what they were trained to do.
She's so fixated inside of her biases she completely ignores the whole "Russia" side of the "let's work to prevent nukes from being used".
Russia can offer detente, but she's acting as such a useful idiot that she can't even conceptualize that.
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As long as the fact that this war was provoked remains unacknowledged by the side that provoked it, the sane path of de-escalation and detente will look like reckless appeasement of an irrational madman, and aggressive escalations of nuclear brinkmanship will look like sanity. The absurd position that Putin is an irrational actor with some kind of weird sexual fetish for war crimes is a one-way ticket to endlessly escalating war and eventual nuclear annihilation, because it leaves you with no options but continually intensifying military confrontation.
Just like with her "there aren't any reasons Russia would bomb its pipeline" rhetoric, she ignores the simple and most logical explanation of why Russia would invade Ukraine: to create a land bridge from Russia to Crimea.
She's off her rocker as well as having issues of being not nearly as intelligent or independent as she imagines herself. I'd be careful using that useful idiot for any sort of talking points.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:12 pm to NC_Tigah
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Just to be clear, it's fairly likely you will be vaporized if they use nukes.
Doubtful, but if it happens, it will still be Russia's fault
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I just want the most stable post-war situation we can get out of this manure pile we had a hand in creating.
Well that's for sure Russia losing and for sure Russia not using nukes.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:WTF is it that you don't get about the dangers of instability surrounding the world's largest cache of nuclear weapons.
I want Putin to rule over a Russia devolving into the standard of living of the Congo
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:13 pm to SDVTiger
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I dont give a shite who would
You actually do, you're just too ignorant to understand what that means.
And
The countries involves in securing the peace care who would.
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As long as it got done and avoided war
Russia had already started war by that point.
Do you want US boots on the ground in Ukraine? Because the US enforcing a peace agreement in Ukraine would have done just that
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:15 pm to NC_Tigah
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WTF is it that you don't get about the dangers of instability surrounding the world's largest cache of nuclear weapons.
We survived it once already without issue. I'm confident we can do it again.
Hell, this would provide a theoretical path to get Russia to give up their nukes once and for all
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