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re: How many of you will be upset if/when Ukraine thwarts Russia?

Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:37 pm to
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That would be Western Europe...


Germany, by nearly all geographic definitions, is Central Europe.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:38 pm to
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That's still not an argument.


According to whom? You?

No offense, but I will trust my own experience and judgement on this.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:39 pm to
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Germany, by nearly all geographic definitions, is Central Europe.


Now do France...

This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 5:41 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:39 pm to
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Let me ask you: what will be your thought if a nuke goes off? What if Kiev, Kharkiv, or say a battalion is nuked? Will it be self reflection?



Self-reflection for what? I didn't personally do anything you dumb dipshit. You have an intense problem describing who is responsible for actions.

I know there's going to be no self-reflection on your part when you are wrong about your many prognostications, though.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:40 pm to
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Now do France...

Premodern or postmodern?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:41 pm to
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Now do France...


So if Alsace and Lorraine are under German control, they are Central Europe, right? Thus the absence of issues at that flashpoint means what? Work out the rest of the argument.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:41 pm to
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quote:We should probably just let the Russians invade whoever they want. Deflection much?


Did I not sum up your foreign policy? Just answer yes or no.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:43 pm to
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As for Central Europe, what is your description?

The Czech Republic?
Slovakia?
Austria?
Hungary?
Romania?
Bulgaria?
Poland?

If so, I have been to most of them.

Germany, Luxenberg, Belgium, Austria, Holland and...Denmark? Along with some of the countries you listed, but you're getting into Eastern Europe, too.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:43 pm to
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Self-reflection for what? I didn't personally do anything you dumb dipshit. You have an intense problem describing who is responsible for actions.


Self reflection for warmongering.

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I know there's going to be no self-reflection on your part when you are wrong about your many prognostications, though.


Again, been pretty consistent since May that this is the month that things will go to shite. Harvest is this month and it’s going to be bad, but granted it takes a major cold front for my prediction to come to fruition, so it’s possible it will instead be in November. But once it hits Europe, you’re going to see some shite. It’s not a matter of if, it’s when. Once General Winter comes, Europe is going to flip the frick out. And if it comes down to a nuke, then yes people like you are responsible for it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:44 pm to
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Let me ask you: what will be your thought if a nuke goes off?

Anger at Russia for not only starting it, but escalating this conflict to such heights
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:45 pm to
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We should probably just let the Russians invade whoever they want.

None of them will answer my simple question in OP. Lucky did.

OML refused
NC refused

All the moonbats refused, obviously. Some of them basically declared their support of Russia
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:45 pm to
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Anger at Russia for not only starting it, but escalating this conflict to such heights


Well that should be literally every person’s thought on the planet, including Russian citizens. Obviously they’ll be primarily responsible, but our reaction also provoked that to a major degree.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:46 pm to
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Transnistria and Kaliningrad. Is it improbable, yes. That being said, I would not dismiss it totally.


Dude Russia is going to be so gutted if they lose this they won't have the power to do shite moving forward.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44306 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:46 pm to
Dude, you mentioned France.

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So if Alsace and Lorraine are under German control, they are Central Europe, right?


Ummm...Eastern France (Western Europe)?

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:47 pm to
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None of them will answer my simple question in OP. Lucky did.

OML refused
NC refused

All the moonbats refused, obviously. Some of them basically declared their support of Russia


My answer is still the same. Save for the initial support in February, until Russia invades NATO (or destroys a nuclear reactor although I haven’t said that explicitly before now), do nothing. NATO is the line for me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:48 pm to
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our reaction also provoked that to a major degree.

"Our reaction" aka, "not giving into Russian demands after they start a system-changing event"

TO QUOTE OP AGAIN

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Since we're on that topic, since Russia will always threaten using nukes, is there ever a legitimate reason to oppose any actions of Russia? North Korea? China? Iran?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44306 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:48 pm to
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Dude Russia is going to be so gutted if they lose this they won't have the power to do shite moving forward.


Probably.

But I don’t trust Putin.

Supposedly he died of a blood disorder months ago, and is still leading the Ruskies.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:48 pm to
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Eastern France (Western Europe)?

Some consider France to be Central Europe, too. Just FYI
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:49 pm to
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Self reflection for warmongering.



You moron, the warmongery is from the Russians and them alone.

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Again, been pretty consistent since May that this is the month that things will go to shite. Harvest is this month and it’s going to be bad, but granted it takes a major cold front for my prediction to come to fruition, so it’s possible it will instead be in November. But once it hits Europe, you’re going to see some shite. It’s not a matter of if, it’s when. Once General Winter comes, Europe is going to flip the frick out. And if it comes down to a nuke, then yes people like you are responsible for it.



Okay, so when this doesn't happen, you aren't responsible for all the nonsense you've posted?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68458 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:49 pm to
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She's off her rocker as well as having issues of being not nearly as intelligent or independent as she imagines herself. I'd be careful using that useful idiot for any sort of talking points.


I just appreciate seeing some semblance of an anti-war left. It's basically her, Michael Tracey, Aaron Mate, Jimmy Dore, and to a lesser extent, Greenwald and Taibbi. Where is the Squad to say escalating with a nuclear superpower may get us all killed? I think Omar is the only one who even hinted that pumping a country full of weapons with no accounting for them is a bad idea. If you had the same set of facts going on with Trump in office right now, the country would be in freakout mode. But, hey, adults in the room are running things. So, it's OK.
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