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re: How Many of You Have Listened to Mamdani's Victory Speech?

Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:27 am to
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:27 am to
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Dude literally spoke like he is king and can decree a bunch of shite he can't do.


he will be less affective than adams because he will be dealing with Albany actively fighting against everything he is trying to do every step of the way.

Mamdani could literally sink the entire New York State economy with his stupidity
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 11:35 am
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16713 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:27 am to
I listened. It was lies, damn lies and total nonsense. The people in NYC must not be the sharpest knives in the drawer to believe his BS
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:28 am to
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he blows the doors off of AOC or Newsom or Whitmer.

Poor guy, at best he can ascend to the senate.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89680 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:28 am to
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Why do you think his voters are "despearate" and what do you think has made them so?

For the record, I'm not discounting pure perception over reality, as I belive that drives a lot of voters as much as anything.


for them it is easier to vote for a pandering politician, then to actually try to change their own lives
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
244 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:29 am to
I don’t know of many billionaires backing the likes of Bernie Sanders, AOC, or Mamdani. I do however know the tech feudal lords and other billionaires backing the mainstream politicians, particularly this current administration. It’s about putting people in political office not beholden to billionaires and who will put the needs of the working people first. The rich don’t need anymore tax breaks or special considerations. They already own everything are poised to eliminate the majority of labor via AI and robotics.

I want a bulwark in place to defend working people from the devastation brought on to them by decades of offshoring, horrific trade deals that prioritized corporate interests over working people, skyrocketing costs in housing, education, healthcare, groceries, etc. all while the wealthy make out like bandits, making astronomically large profits while every day people can barely make their mortgage, if they’re lucky to even have one. We watched our parent’s generations suffer through this and were not gonna sit idly by to see our fall victim to it as well. If they weren’t so willing to shake every nickel and dime out of our pockets to line their own, we wouldn’t be considering such policies. But here we are, and it’s time to fight fire with fire. Sorry, not sorry.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 11:32 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292683 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:30 am to
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I don’t know of many billionaires backing the likes of Bernie Sanders, AOC, or Mamdani.


Because like you, they dont understand economics at all.

Socialism is a utopian fantasy, and never can work.

Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50632 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:31 am to
He's a mayor. How much power is vested in the mayor?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7150 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:31 am to
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This is exactly what the starry eyed people said about Obama and Bernie Sanders too.


I never thought that about Obama. He flip flopped on many things. Sanders's support of Clinton exposed him as a poser.

Of the people who have run for president in my lifetime, I would say Barry Goldwater and Pat Buchanan were the most consistent and authentic.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
55 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:33 am to
"Of the people who have run for president in my lifetime, I would say Barry Goldwater and Pat Buchanan were the most consistent and authentic."

how'd that work out for

barry goldwater
pat buchanan

the party they were part of
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 11:34 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292683 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:34 am to
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I never thought that about Obama. He flip flopped on many things


But he gave rousing, "authentic" speeches prior to his taking office.

Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89680 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:34 am to
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Absolutely. Newsom is a poser. He will say what it takes to get elected. He doesn't believe half the tings he says.

Mamdani is consistent and authentic. I would never support him, but...AS A CANDIDATE...he blows the doors off of AOC or Newsom or Whitmer.



wow

we have 25+ years of Newsom in the media trying to defend the indefensible, the same thing will happen to mamdani because what he is saying are lies
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
244 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:34 am to
I’d rather try and fail at a new approach than continue with this approach that’s clearly failing America and has been for generations. $40 trillion in debt and what do we have to show for it? We’ve been robbed blind and the poor will be made to suffer the consequences.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109332 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:35 am to
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I want a bulwark in place to defend working people from the devastation brought on to them by decades of offshoring, horrific trade deals that prioritized corporate interests over working people, skyrocketing costs in housing, education, healthcare, groceries, etc. all while the wealthy make out like bandits, making astronomically large profits while every day people can barely make their mortgage, if they’re lucky to even have one. We watched our parent’s generations suffer through this and were not gonna sit idly by to see our fall victim to it as well. If they weren’t so willing to shake every nickel and dime out of our pockets to line their own, we wouldn’t be considering such policies. But here we are, and it’s time to fight fire with fire. Sorry, not sorry.


How does this apply in the context of immigrants from third world countries who live in and choose to remain in NYC proper?

Or starry eyed young women who move there for some advertising gig and barely squeak by without their parents' help?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7150 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:35 am to
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Poor guy, at best he can ascend to the senate.


Thanks for pointing that out...duh. My only point in making this thread was to point out what a good candidate Mandami is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292683 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:36 am to
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I’d rather try and fail at a new approach t


Its never worked. It can never work.

It cannot create wealth to sustain growth and spending, and caters to the lowest common denominators.

Socialism would be great if not for actual human nature, something you people have no understanding of, at all.

Its a utopian pipe dream which will be coopted by the first Pig that stands on two legs.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7150 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:38 am to
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Its a utopian pipe dream which will be coopted by the first Pig that stands on two legs.


I agree completely with this. You run out of other peoples' money! All my comments are just to point out how good Mamdani is at campaigning.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89680 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:39 am to
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I’d rather try and fail at a new approach than continue with this approach that’s clearly failing America and has been for generations. $40 trillion in debt and what do we have to show for it? We’ve been robbed blind and the poor will be made to suffer the consequences.


be careful what you wish for

you should read up on Russia from 1915 to today, you might find it interesting

didnt turn out to well for the poor there either

socialism is the ultimate power grab, people love the potential of it but dont understand the reality of it until it is too late
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
993 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:40 am to
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Honestly, I don't know if he has the authority to raise taxes on individuals and companies...is that something only the state of New York can do?


It’s still up to the legislature but the NYC mayor has lots of political clout. Indeed, many times people know the mayor of NYC even when they don’t know the governor. Hochul and the democratic leadership in NY Congress endorsed him. He can’t enact change on taxes but he can strongly influence it

He can appoint all the members of the rent guidelined board. Similarly, he can appoint many other city officials. With a city GDP of 1.3 Trillion that can have big impact
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7150 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:40 am to
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how'd that work out for

barry goldwater
pat buchanan

the party they were part of


Not well. I was just answering the question about authenticity.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
55 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:41 am to
Look we get it.


You turned on the TV last night and a good looking communist who won a race in a shite hole American city by appealing to those who can't make it out of that shite hole said some words all in the right order eloquently and gave you a tingle up your leg.

It just seems odd that for somebody who's been around since at least Goldwater is acting like this is the second coming and like they've never seen anything like this before.

This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 11:42 am
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