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re: How is it Quid Pro Quo when a Burista inquiry may exonerate the Bidens?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:45 pm to ConwayGamecock
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:45 pm to ConwayGamecock
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first-hand witnesses
This is a lie.
I'll wait for you to point out in Bill Taylor's testimony where he had first hand knowledge of anything.
Everything he spoke about was his impression and interpretation, or what a "staff member told him." Nor did he substantiate any of his claims with any type of evidence to support them, despite the fact that the text messages between Taylor and Sondland clearly show Sondland insisting the President wanted no quid pro quos in the face of Taylor conveniently making that claim out of the blue.
For some reason, that staff member(s) he references have remained unnamed. Perhaps because we know the whistleblower is a spook who's coordinated with Schiff's office and other democrats to initiate this sham investigation.
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:48 pm to Snazzmeister
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For some reason, that staff member(s) he references have remained unnamed. Perhaps because we know the whistleblower is a spook who's coordinated with Schiff's office and other democrats to initiate this sham investigation.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/impeachment-hearings-david-holmes-bill-taylor-staffer-who-overheard-trump-ask-about-investigations-set-to-appear/
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Washington — The diplomatic official who allegedly overheard President Trump ask about the status of "investigations" soon after his July phone call with the Ukrainian president is expected to appear before House lawmakers for a closed-door hearing on Friday.
David Holmes is the staffer referenced by diplomat Bill Taylor in testimony before the House Intelligence Committee on Wednesday, three sources familiar with the matter tell CBS News. Holmes is a counselor for political affairs at the U.S. embassy in Kiev, according to the embassy's website.
At the first public hearings of the impeachment inquiry, Taylor testified that a member of his staff, whom he did not name, was with U.S. Ambassador to the E.U. Gordon Sondland at a restaurant on July 26 when the ambassador placed a call to Mr. Trump.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:50 pm to Mickey Goldmill
so.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:51 pm to Mickey Goldmill
How are they going to do this on Friday when they have public testimony on Friday?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:53 pm to bmy
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quote: In order to have a Quid Pro Quo, you MUST have a bona fide benefit to both sides of the exchange
Look at Bidens poll numbers vs timeline
Biden or any other Dim currently running for the Dim nomination has very little chance of defeating Trump in 2020 and most Americans know it, there's no doubt the DNC knows it. With that said, it's laughable that Shitty Schiff is trying to sell this Ukraine crapola as Trump was needing Ukrainian help to kick Slow Joe's arse.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:55 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The diplomatic official who allegedly overheard President Trump ask about the status of "investigations"
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:00 pm to Jbird
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so.
Why do y'all always miss the point? He said the staffer was not named so I showed that he was named and is testifying on Friday. That's all
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:25 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Interesting. I hadn't seen that. Did Bill Taylor confirm he was the staffer in question?
Also interesting how he gave his deposition on October 22nd but it wasn't until last Friday that Holmes would tell him about what supposedly took place. I wonder if it had anything to do with Zeldin blasting him for only having fourth hand information.
Also interesting how he gave his deposition on October 22nd but it wasn't until last Friday that Holmes would tell him about what supposedly took place. I wonder if it had anything to do with Zeldin blasting him for only having fourth hand information.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:28 pm to VOR
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What Trump really sought was the public announcement of an investigation.
You see the world through the lens of your own lack of character.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:28 pm to TiggerB8t
Because OMB!
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:31 pm to VOR
And yet he didn't get an announcement and aid was not held up; so once again, this impeachment is about what they think Trump really wanted to do, not what Trump actually did.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:29 pm to TiggerB8t
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How is it Quid Pro Quo when a Burista inquiry may exonerate the Bidens?
This is all a complete waste of time, here's what logical people know:
-Biden and Son are corrupt AF
-Biden admitted on camera to extorting Ukraine over his son's corrupt company
-Ukraine reopened the Burisma investigation earlier in the year preceding the "phone call"
-the transcript establishes Trump merely asked a favor of Ukraine regarding this, didn't extort over the aid
-Zelensky avers he wasn't pressured with this and hasn't recanted that statement
-a TREATY between these two countries requires cooperation in criminal investigations
-all the reports about testimony and all the "witnesses" establish the withholding of the aid boiled down to investigating corruption and election interference not to gain a political edge over Biden
-the CONSTITUTION requires the President inquire about and leverage this under the Take Care Clause and permits him to do this under his Article II Section 2 powers
Trump's conduct under his Article II powers isn't impeachable here, it's required under his oath to the CONSTITUTION. People too gullible (or flat retarded) to really comprehend and apply this massive factor.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:32 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
quote:Don't have to. It was repeated over and over again by Trump's 3 Amigos.
Libs rely so heavily on their ability to read minds, it’s hilarious.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:49 pm to ConwayGamecock
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If the Ukrainian President stepped forward to that microphone, and publicly announced the investigations into Burisma and the Biden's involvement, Trump would play it up for all it was worth, and by the time someone would ask, "hey, whatever happened with those Ukrainian investigations into Burisma and the Bidens? What did they ever find out about that?", it'd be early 2021, and to Trump it wouldn't matter anymore that they ultimately found out zero - he was just wanting to hang the optics of Ukraine having this investigation over Biden's head throughout the entire election.....
Welcome to politics... I wonder where else this is currently happening?....
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