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How is it Quid Pro Quo when a Burista inquiry may exonerate the Bidens?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:31 pm
In order to have a Quid Pro Quo, you MUST have a bona fide benefit to both sides of the exchange. IF the Bidens are innocent, clarity on this matter would actually help Biden and harm Trump politically, correct? If guilty, the citizens of the United States benefit, because we rid ourselves of corruption.
The irony of all of this is that the Trump "Russia" investigation was, in and of itself, an Obama/Hillary "Quid Pro Quo" with foreign governments and our internal intelligence leaders. It had much less justification than the Biden inquiry. Trump was exonerated, which has resulted in a public backlash against the Dems. The same would happen if Biden were to be exonerated on Burisma.
So, what are you Dems scared of? You deem it a crime for Trump to openly attempt to "clear the air" on a known issue with Ukraine corruption....yet, you used the past 2-3 years with the help of some politically motivated CIA/FBI/Media hacks to fabricate and launch a clandestine investigation of Trump's Russia-gate.
If it weren't so sad, it would be downright laughable at the different set of rules that these Dems play by.....and get away with. Yet, they believe they represent the true "soul" of the country. Well, if that's so, this country is in big trouble!
The irony of all of this is that the Trump "Russia" investigation was, in and of itself, an Obama/Hillary "Quid Pro Quo" with foreign governments and our internal intelligence leaders. It had much less justification than the Biden inquiry. Trump was exonerated, which has resulted in a public backlash against the Dems. The same would happen if Biden were to be exonerated on Burisma.
So, what are you Dems scared of? You deem it a crime for Trump to openly attempt to "clear the air" on a known issue with Ukraine corruption....yet, you used the past 2-3 years with the help of some politically motivated CIA/FBI/Media hacks to fabricate and launch a clandestine investigation of Trump's Russia-gate.
If it weren't so sad, it would be downright laughable at the different set of rules that these Dems play by.....and get away with. Yet, they believe they represent the true "soul" of the country. Well, if that's so, this country is in big trouble!
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 12:33 pm
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:33 pm to TiggerB8t
What Trump really sought was the public announcement of an investigation.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:34 pm to VOR
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What Trump really sought was the public announcement of an investigation.
is this interpretation or hearsay?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:37 pm to VOR
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What Trump really sought was the public announcement of an investigation.
So should we thank Shciff for making sure this occurred?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:40 pm to VOR
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What Trump really sought
Libs rely so heavily on their ability to read minds, it’s hilarious.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:43 pm to VOR
Assuming that is true and that monies would be withheld if not delivered, then again....what is the benefit to Trump if an inquiry results in an exoneration of Biden? It would have backlash effects similar to what has happened with the Dems on the Russia hoax.
Trump suffered through 2+ years, including the 2018 mid-term election cycle, with that investigation - yet, nobody gave a damn about that! The Biden Burista investigation should be much less broad than the Russia hoax because it's unlikely that there were CIA, FBI, and foreign powers working on Trump's side to fabricate smokescreens and supposed illegal activities by the Bidens (as opposed to what actually happened with Russia-gate).
Trump suffered through 2+ years, including the 2018 mid-term election cycle, with that investigation - yet, nobody gave a damn about that! The Biden Burista investigation should be much less broad than the Russia hoax because it's unlikely that there were CIA, FBI, and foreign powers working on Trump's side to fabricate smokescreens and supposed illegal activities by the Bidens (as opposed to what actually happened with Russia-gate).
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:45 pm to VOR
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What Trump really sought was the public announcement of an investigation.
Assuming for one second that this is true, this differs from what the Dems are doing/have done in what way?
I think you guys are projecting again.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:46 pm to VOR
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What Trump really sought was the public announcement of an investigation.
Oh you mean like Obama's administration unmasking Trump staff from the FISA bullshite and then releasing the investigation to multiple agencies with no real explanation for why it was necessary to unmask US citizens not guilty of a crime?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:49 pm to TiggerB8t
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In order to have a Quid Pro Quo, you MUST have a bona fide benefit to both sides of the exchange
Look at Bidens poll numbers vs timeline
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:50 pm to bmy
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Look at Bidens poll numbers vs timeline
Yea there couldn't be any other reason his polling declined. None at all. Impeach!!!!!!
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:52 pm to TiggerB8t
Trump doesn't care if the Bidens are exonerated. He lies in the face of truth, lies about things that have already been debunked and proven false many times over, and doubles down on the lies and keep right on lying. That's Donald Trump's "art of the deal".
The entire thing was always supposed to be a political ploy by Trump and Giuliani to use and weaponize against Biden during the 2020 campaign. He doesn't care about Ukraine, and doesn't care about the truth: he only wants to do whatever it takes to win re-election.
If the Ukrainian President stepped forward to that microphone, and publicly announced the investigations into Burisma and the Biden's involvement, Trump would play it up for all it was worth, and by the time someone would ask, "hey, whatever happened with those Ukrainian investigations into Burisma and the Bidens? What did they ever find out about that?", it'd be early 2021, and to Trump it wouldn't matter anymore that they ultimately found out zero - he was just wanting to hang the optics of Ukraine having this investigation over Biden's head throughout the entire election.....
And the fact that an adult has to even ask this question in the OP is laughable.....
The entire thing was always supposed to be a political ploy by Trump and Giuliani to use and weaponize against Biden during the 2020 campaign. He doesn't care about Ukraine, and doesn't care about the truth: he only wants to do whatever it takes to win re-election.
If the Ukrainian President stepped forward to that microphone, and publicly announced the investigations into Burisma and the Biden's involvement, Trump would play it up for all it was worth, and by the time someone would ask, "hey, whatever happened with those Ukrainian investigations into Burisma and the Bidens? What did they ever find out about that?", it'd be early 2021, and to Trump it wouldn't matter anymore that they ultimately found out zero - he was just wanting to hang the optics of Ukraine having this investigation over Biden's head throughout the entire election.....
And the fact that an adult has to even ask this question in the OP is laughable.....
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:53 pm to bmy
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Look at Bidens poll numbers vs timeline
Yeah, it's not like the entire Democrat Party has been turning their back on Biden or anything like that.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:54 pm to bmy
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Look at Bidens poll numbers vs timeline
What in the literal frick?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:55 pm to ConwayGamecock
Another one that is going to pretend yesterday didn't happen.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:57 pm to ConwayGamecock
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it wouldn't matter anymore that they ultimately found out zero
Lol, silly lib, the Bidens haven’t been exonerated yet.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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is this interpretation or hearsay?
It's testimony of first-hand witnesses involving the highest levels of U.S. foreign policy involving Ukraine, under oath.....
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:02 pm to Godfather1
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Assuming for one second that this is true, this differs from what the Dems are doing/have done in what way?
I think you guys are projecting again.
Your first question is not even a proper question - do you know what you are asking there? I doubt it.
It is also categorically false - the fact that Trump sought to get the Ukrainian President to publicly announce that they are initiating investigations into Burisma and the Bidens - along with actually initiating the investigations - is at the entire heart of what the Democrats are seeking to impeach Trump over, in the first place.....
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:09 pm to VOR
quote:did he? Where was that in the transcript?
What Trump really sought was the public announcement of an investigation.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:24 pm to bmy
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Look at Bidens poll numbers vs timeline
Dems and their friends in the media were too busy trying to hang Biden for groping children, clearing the way for a socialist nominee, to see this coming.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:25 pm to VOR
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What Trump really sought was the public announcement of an investigation.
It was already being investigated by the DOJ. Asking Ukraine for cooperation was what he needed to make a "public announcement"?
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