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re: How is banging a pornstar and a playmate a bad thing?

Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:02 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:02 pm to
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1st, 3rd, and 5th Amendment Rights of all(undocumented) illegals would mean what?


That they’re over. Those rights don’t go to citizens. They go to people. Free speech and basic rights would be dead.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:03 pm to
The left would have rolled Paul up and sent him down the hill.
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:04 pm to
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Those rights don’t go to citizens. They go to people.


wow
Posted by PaperTiger
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:05 pm to
Might want to take Eisenhower off your list.

And after researching Truman and the IRS scandal I'm not exactly sure he sets the bar either.

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In 1950, Senator Estes Kefauver led a Committee, investigating numerous charges of corruption, with senior administration officials alleged to have received gifts in exchange for favors, and a large number of IRB (IRS) employees said to be accepting bribes; More than 160 employees either resigned or were fired in 1950, with many soon facing indictment. It got worse: in 1951, Truman's long-time friend and chairman of the Democratic National Committee, William M. Boyle, was forced to resign after being charged with financial corruption. And when Attorney General J. Howard McGrath tried to fire special prosecutor Newbold Morris in early 1952 for being too zealous, Truman had to fire McGrath, stoking up corruption as a major issue in the 1952 presidential election


truman irs scandal

History repeating itself I guess
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 11:18 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:05 pm to
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If he can be blackmailed for it, it is a bad thing

Some would argue that infidelity on its face is also a bad thing even while acknowledging it's ultimately between him and his wife.

Personally, I don't really care. The fact that Trump likes to bang whores is probably the least surprising thing about him I can think of.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:06 pm to
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The left would have rolled Paul up and sent him down the hill.


For what? What did they have Rand Paul on? Was there anything near “grab em by the pussy”? No there wasn’t. The election was not about how good of a candidate Donald Trump was, but about how despicable Hillary Clinton was. Rand Paul would have destroyed her and may have gotten states as liberal as Illinois.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:07 pm to
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1st, 3rd, and 5th Amendment Rights of all(undocumented) illegals would mean what?
It would mean every single judge in every single Federal Court including the Supreme Court would immediately and unanimously declare it an unconstitutional overreach, although it's very few, if anyone, in the DOJ would probably have enforced it anyways since it would be so blatantly unconstitutional that following the order wouldn't justify it and I would expect anyone who did enforce it to be dismissed rather quickly.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:09 pm to
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Rand Paul would have destroyed her
He would have lost.
Posted by NoHoTiger
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:09 pm to
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Why didn’t we nominate a person of character to fight her like Rand Paul?

People didn’t vote for Trump because of his fine and morally upstanding character. They voted for him precisely because he wasn’t establishment.

If nothing else comes out of his presidency, we are seeing that NO ONE in DC gives a damn about anything but pointing fingers and getting re-elected. He may be the wake up call that we needed. We’ve been complacent for too long.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:12 pm to
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And isn’t he a bastion for Christianity?


Donald Trump? No.

We didn't elect a Billy Graham. We elected an Outsider Reformer Nationalist.

Besides, it all happened way before Trump was POTUS. Clinton's sex in the Oval Office happened on US Government Property and on the taxpayer's dime.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:14 pm to
Courts sure like to interpret words to an advantage.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:15 pm to
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Some would argue that infidelity on its face is also a bad thing even while acknowledging it's ultimately between him and his wife.
Yeah. I mean it's just one of those things (assuming it's not an open marriage) that I find wrong and it causes me to lose some respect for a person. Of course, I don't hold that as a complete indictment of a person either.

And like you, Trump's infidelity is not something that really bothers me personally. And while I don't expect his supporters to care much either, I do find it ridiculous that anyone finds infidelity to he wrong, that they can't just acknowledge that, or even more inexplicably actually defends it.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:15 pm to
The whole point of this charade is character assassination.
Posted by TopJimmy
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:15 pm to
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OK, so? Why didn’t we nominate a person of character to fight her like Rand Paul? He would have done even better than Trump and won Minnesota, Colorado, New Hampshire, and Nevada. I refused to vote for Hillary as well, but there were options besides a pussy grabber.
You go with that. You and your third party fantasies will land us in Hell. I don't even believe in Hell, but people of your ilk will certainly put us there. I grabbed at pussy when I was young, and got the shite knocked out of me. I could give a damn about his sex life. I'm loving the tax cut, he's going to talk with asian Nukem, and he's going to talk with Putin. What more can you ask.
These failed porn stars with lawsuits? Good luck. Even if our President did them, what's new? JFK was doing Marilyn in the 60's.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:17 pm to
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Those rights don’t go to citizens. They go to people.


wow


OK, let me post the Amendments I referenced

1st Amendment:

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Mention of the people, not the citizens.

3rd Amendment:

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No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.


Mention of the owner, not the citizens.

5th Amendment:

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No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


And while I'm at it, lets bring up the 2nd:

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


and 4th Amendments:

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


So yeah, I guarantee the mouth breathers here would celebrate Trump shitting all over the Bill of Rights and will say to anyone rightfully pissed off as "Melt cuck! He's coming for you next!"
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:18 pm to
Melt cuck!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:19 pm to
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He would have lost.



Incorrect. This election was a referendum on Hillary Clinton not an approval of Donald Trump. It would have been a landslide. I don't see anyway she wins the Rust Belt or Florida against Rand Paul.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:19 pm to
And btw you bolding “people” doesn’t mean shite when it’s obvious the FFs wrote it with the citizens (the people) in mind.

It’s not the Constitution for the entire world.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 11:20 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:19 pm to
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The whole point of this charade is character assassination.
I mean that's probably why he paid them off in the first place right? He knew that it wouldn't look good. Ironically, it may have been more problematic having the NDA and the story never being told than to do nothing and just the risk the story leaking.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:20 pm to
You know who those rights were written for and to not acknowledge that it foolishness.

I understand the courts allowed for the language to be used to extend those rights.

I was not the purpose of the original language.
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