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re: How in the ENTIRE hell can 5 states refuse to cooperate with voter fraud investigations?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:39 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:39 pm to mmcgrath
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What you get publicly would never include any part of your social security number or a lot of that other stuff.
Sure. But they're not offering to turn over everything but the SSN. Are they?
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:44 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Why don't the Feds buy the data or download it or collect it like any other citizen can? I don't see the big deal.
Why buy something we could have just for the asking? I'm sure the Russians would willingly just email that info over to POTUS. You know, collusion and shite.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:45 pm to the808bass
quote:There are other parts of the request that are considered private information.
Sure. But they're not offering to turn over everything but the SSN. Are they?
In any case, compiling the methods for maintaining the data and reviewing actual practices would be better than collecting voter rolls and start fishing through a billion records. What they are asking for looks like they are fishing for illegal aliens in Dem districts regardless of whether they actually voted.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:47 pm to mmcgrath
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What they are asking for looks like they are fishing for illegal aliens in Dem districts regardless of whether they actually voted.
How would they find them if they're not registered?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:48 pm to narddogg81
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they also have the right to not have their electoral votes counted in federal elections if they will not cooperate with investigations into voting integrity.
This is something POTUS should milk until just before the next presidential election.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:48 pm to mmcgrath
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What they are asking for looks like they are fishing for illegal aliens in Dem districts regardless of whether they actually voted.
LOL... how would they find illegal aliens via REGISTERED voter information?
You might want to think that through.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:49 pm to the808bass
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How would they find them if they're not registered?
He didn't think that through
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:49 pm to MButterfly
He knows they're registered. We all know they're registered. We all know they vote. We are supposed to pretend like they don't so people don't call us racists. frick em.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:49 pm to the808bass
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What they are asking for looks like they are fishing for illegal aliens in Dem districts regardless of whether they actually voted.
How would they find them if they're not registered
Yeah. Is mmgrath saying it would bee a bad thing to find illegal aliens that are registered to vote?
LOL
Every now and then, liberals accidentally admit who they really are.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:52 pm to ShortyRob
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Every now and then, liberals accidentally admit who they really are.
Yes they do.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:52 pm to the808bass
quote:Yes, basic information (DOB, mailing address, & party affiliation) is available to the public. And a request can be made for specific purposes (journalism, research).
California allows access to their voter rolls for people merely doing voter trend research. This isn't some unheard of massive infringement on privacy.
Tutorial: Voter Registration Records
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Because of privacy concerns, personal information on a voter at a voter registrar’s office, such as a home address or phone number, is often not available to the general public. Only a voter’s date of birth, mailing address and political party affiliation might be available.
quote:The administration also wants 10 years of voting records as well. In my opinion, as long as personal data can be transmitted securely, the voting records would be the most concerning information to give over to federal politicians. It's valuable data, that a partisan group would have. I know I wouldn't want the Obama administration to trust them to use them for solely government purposes.
However, much of the personal information, such as a home address and phone number, is not open to the general public because of privacy cconcerns. In California, a reporter can get access to the restricted information if you can demonstrate you need it for “journalistic purposes.”
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:52 pm to the808bass
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He knows they're registered. We all know they're registered. We all know they vote. We are supposed to pretend like they don't so people don't call us racists. frick em.
I think Cali is a ton!
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:57 pm to buckeye_vol
Except for the fact that there is this law..... and its prerty clear.
Now I get your point, but you will not find many Americans who think we shoild allow non US citizens to vote.
The voter rolls need to be purges of dead people that are still voting and illegal people voting.
Now I get your point, but you will not find many Americans who think we shoild allow non US citizens to vote.
The voter rolls need to be purges of dead people that are still voting and illegal people voting.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:02 pm to narddogg81
quote:Are you making this up, or is there some legal basis?
they also have the right to not have their electoral votes counted in federal elections if they will not cooperate with investigations into voting integrity.
Looking quickly on my phone, I haven't found any legal basis for your post, but if it exists I think that would be useful for this discussion. I did find this to be an intersting guide.
Federal Prosecution of Election Offenses
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:05 pm to Jjdoc
quote:I agree. States are required to make reasonable efforts to keep their registration database accurate. They also provide REPORTS to the federal government, and the DOJ can access the application and declination information.
Except for the fact that there is this law..... and its prerty clear.
Now I get your point, but you will not find many Americans who think we shoild allow non US citizens to vote.
The voter rolls need to be purges of dead people that are still voting and illegal people voting.
The Admin's request obviously includes some of that information, but I think some of the information goes a little further than the legal authority.
Frankly, I would actually like to see this go through the courts up to SCOTUS.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:08 pm to buckeye_vol
You didn't bother to look up anything other than what was pointed out to you yesterday about declinations?
Wow.
Wow.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:10 pm to Iowa Golfer
This thread damn sure triggered the Nevercucks and the proggies.
Recon why that is?
Recon why that is?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:11 pm to Iowa Golfer
quote:I just provided a 344 page document that provides information regarding federal election laws, which I found 5 minutes ago.
You didn't bother to look up anything other than what was pointed out to you yesterday about declinations?
Wow.
So yes, I have bothered to look up more information.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:16 pm to bamarep
He was citing the Constitution yesterday and the federal role in elections. So I asked him about the fed's role in immigration, and didn't get an answer. So then someone cited one section of federal code. And now he has grabbed on to the one small portion of federal code. So I hinted to him there might be other federal code sections that applied, and maybe even court tested cases about the fed's role, and right to this information. Just to see if he might take a moment to do a Google search.
And now here we are today, and he is still going like the Energizer Bunny wanting a SCOTUS ruling.
I'm going to let him keep going, and when he forgets, maybe in a month, I'll post some links in a thread where he is acting like an expert again.
And now here we are today, and he is still going like the Energizer Bunny wanting a SCOTUS ruling.
I'm going to let him keep going, and when he forgets, maybe in a month, I'll post some links in a thread where he is acting like an expert again.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:25 pm to the808bass
quote:When applying for regular ID cards at the DMV a simple machine misreading a checkbox to register could accidentally add someone to the list. Depending on whether or not the local districts purge the old data, some of those records could be there even if they were corrected.
How would they find them if they're not registered?
There are other ways to merge name and address records by running functions to handle simple mispellings and the like. However I am not certain what that would tell you. Perhaps you can compare it to actual voter counts and look for people voting in two different states or districts using their real names. But that would be exhausting based on name matching and very little else.
Like I said, reviewing processes for maintaining voter registration lists (purging dead people, handling people who move) would get you much better results.
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