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re: How in the ENTIRE hell can 5 states refuse to cooperate with voter fraud investigations?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:27 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:27 pm to mmcgrath
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When applying for regular ID cards at the DMV a simple machine misreading a checkbox to register could accidentally add someone to the list. Depending on whether or not the local districts purge the old data, some of those records could be there even if they were corrected.
And sometimes those people who got "accidentally added to the list" also "accidentally vote." Go blow sunshine up someone else's arse.
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:29 pm to ShortyRob
quote:I am saying to not use the excuse of a "voter fraud" investigation to dragnet potential illegal aliens who never committed voter fraud.
Yeah. Is mmgrath saying it would bee a bad thing to find illegal aliens that are registered to vote?
If you want to use it as an immigration tool then come out and say it. There would be a matter of process so that it isn't just targeting areas based on ethnic demographics.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:29 pm to Iowa Golfer
quote:You didn't ask anything. Here is your post: LINK
So I asked him about the fed's role in immigration, and didn't get an answer.
quote:You provide a vague speculative answer about immigration, and even say it's probably not the best argument. You didn't ask a question, so don't accuse me of not answering one.
Immigration for one, and that's probably not even the best argument, but might be the easiest one.
quote:Yeah. Again you SUSPECT they have standing:
So I hinted to him there might be other federal code sections that applied, and maybe even court tested cases about the fed's role, and right to this information. Just to see if he might take a moment to do a Google search.
quote:
I'd need to think through it, but I suspect they have standing and basis.
quote:Well unless you have some cases that settles the argument, not just your "thinking it though" (whatever that means), then why not have it get settled by SCOTUS, especially with Gorsuch now on the bench?
And now here we are today, and he is still going like the Energizer Bunny wanting a SCOTUS ruling.
I mean your accusing me of not "researching" more, when I've provided multiple links and documents (include a huge one a few posts above with a slew of court cases). Yet, you've provided nothing, except your own speculation. So why don't you provide some information then. I welcome it, but until then, you're being quite the hypocrite.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:30 pm to mmcgrath
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dragnet potential illegal aliens who never committed voter fraud.
But just committed voter registration fraud and identity fraud and stuff.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:32 pm to the808bass
quote:Isn't the discussion about a clerical or technical error that incorrectly registers someone to vote, unbeknownst to the individual? How would that be fraud in that case (provided they don't vote)?
But just committed voter registration fraud and identity fraud and stuff.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:33 pm to buckeye_vol
Rable, rable, rable. Still going.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:36 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Isn't the discussion about a clerical or technical error that incorrectly registers someone to vote, unbeknownst to the individual? How would that be fraud in that case (provided they don't vote)?
That is assuming every illegal registered to vote did not check the box saying they wanted to vote and a presumably separate box that they were indeed citizen. If that's his stance, he's welcome to it. He takes plenty of flying leaps of logic when his ideology requires.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:37 pm to the808bass
quote:It's the poor security practices I'm objecting to. Let me know if I need shorter words.
Yeah. Feds never require reports from states. This is the first one.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:42 pm to the808bass
quote:I do agree that that looks secure (why I included it), but how the data is handled after it is pulled from that site, and the stipulation that all data provided will be made available to the public.
or by utilizing the Safe Access File Exchange (“SAFE), which is a secure FTP site the federal government uses for transferring large data files. You can access the SAFE site at LINK .
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:42 pm to bamarep
Kentucky Secretary of State: "Not enough bourbon in Kentucky"
I'm just loving how this is making Trump look like a bigger idiot. Poor guy's had a rough week haha
I'm just loving how this is making Trump look like a bigger idiot. Poor guy's had a rough week haha
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:43 pm to mmcgrath
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and the stipulation that all data provided will be made available to the public.
Which Kobach has already corrected.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:49 pm to the808bass
I'm saying the first word in your quote should not exist. The other option should not even be considered.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:56 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
I am saying to not use the excuse of a "voter fraud" investigation to dragnet potential illegal aliens who never committed voter fraud.
They won't be on the voter lists requested. Why don't you get this?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:59 pm to Iowa Golfer
quote:So you have no information to provide, except your own vague speculation? And we are supposed to trust the speculation of a person who has continuously mixed up posters for months, even going as far as pulling quotes that would show the mix up? If the information exists, why not provide it?
Rable, rable, rable. Still going.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:05 pm to Iosh
quote:
I'm saying the first word in your quote should not exist. The other option should not even be considered.
I agree.
Government is pretty bad at almost everything they do. This administration is proving that in the details in spades.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:07 pm to buckeye_vol
Ever watch Karate Kid? Now move along to another subject you're an expert on. Like the non seasonality of dairy products. Or tariffs. Or tax policy. Or steak.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:12 pm to the808bass
quote:dittoquote:
I'm saying the first word in your quote should not exist. The other option should not even be considered.
I agree.
quote:racist .... I kid.
This administration is proving that in the details in spades.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:23 pm to Iowa Golfer
quote:I never presented myself as an expert, but I at least include sources and cite information. You're not an expert either, but you fail to even provide basic information.
Ever watch Karate Kid? Now move along to another subject you're an expert on.
quote:I may not be an expert in statistics (although I do have a graduate degree in it), but from a statistical standpoint in a time-series analysis, seasonality was minimal or even non-existent. So I was arguing from an area which I'm closer to an expert than not.
Like the non-seasonality of dairy products
quote:I've discussed tariffs and tax policy, like we all do, but I don't think I've ever discussed them with you (at least tax policy). I definitely have never discussed "steak" with you, and frankly, I don't think I've discussed it with anybody on here
Or tariffs. Or tax policy. OR steak.
So it appears, that AGAIN, you're confusing me with another poster. How do you keep doing this, especially since I just referenced this in the post you're replying to? It's weird, but now I'm wondering if maybe there is a concerning issue present. Are you having difficulty recalling things?
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