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How exactly are we supposed to jump to renewable sources of power?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:36 am
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:36 am
They want everything to be electric. The problem is that our electricity is overwhelmingly generated by non-renewable resources.
Natural Gas - 40%
Coal - 19%
Petroleum - 1%
Nuclear accounts for 20% of power generation.
All of the "clean" methods account for a grand total of 20%. We are also in the middle of power shortages and brownouts in places like California. With electric vehicles on the horizon, how in the world can we make enough electricity? We can't.
Natural Gas - 40%
Coal - 19%
Petroleum - 1%
Nuclear accounts for 20% of power generation.
All of the "clean" methods account for a grand total of 20%. We are also in the middle of power shortages and brownouts in places like California. With electric vehicles on the horizon, how in the world can we make enough electricity? We can't.
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:38 am to Landmass
Easy. By increasing solar and wind production.
Just don't put any of those turbines or solar farms anywhere near where I live. Because it will ruin my view.
/progressive
Just don't put any of those turbines or solar farms anywhere near where I live. Because it will ruin my view.
/progressive
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:38 am to Landmass
It would only make sense to focus efforts mostly on developing a source of renewable energy that's reliable and can sustain us first....but that makes too much sense for our idiot overlords.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:39 am to Landmass
Nuclear is clean particularly modern reactors
This country should be 90% nuclear.
This country should be 90% nuclear.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:40 am to Centinel
Wind? - Most wind farms have been decimated by the fact that the windmills actually take more money to maintain than they generate in power generation.
Solar, to my understanding, is still extremely inefficient. The amount of power it takes to build solar panels compared to the power that they generate is a net loss.
Solar, to my understanding, is still extremely inefficient. The amount of power it takes to build solar panels compared to the power that they generate is a net loss.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:40 am to Cosmo
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Nuclear is clean particularly modern reactors
This country should be 90% nuclear.
The left isn't advocating for nuclear expansion. In fact, they've been moving away from it.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:42 am to Landmass
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With electric vehicles on the horizon, how in the world can we make enough electricity? We can't.
Stop complaining, racist!
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:45 am to Landmass
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This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:46 am to Landmass
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Wind? - Most wind farms have been decimated by the fact that the windmills actually take more money to maintain than they generate in power generation.
Friend of my dad owns a ranch in West Texas. The government offered him a deal to house 3 windmills per acre for a 10 year lease for 100K per acre for the 10 years. He turned it down because the windmills would have been his responsibility after 10 years. Apparently these things have a 10 year operation window. That’s a ton of money just to lease the land.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:47 am to Cosmo
I used to think the same until Fukushima. We've only had nuclear energy for about 70 years and during that time, the disasters have been numerous and they ruin entire areas of land for decades or longer when they happen.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:48 am to Landmass
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how in the world can we make enough electricity?
Well, if you significantly reduced the amount of people using electricity thereby lowering demand... Still probably cant but would have less people bitching about it...
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:48 am to Cosmo
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This country should be 90% nuclear.
I actually remember going to Waterford 3 when it was still under construction back in maybe 1982 or 83 as a 6th grader and they handed us little plastic rods that were the same size as the ones that would be used in the plant. We assumed at the time that everything would be run with nuclear by now.
Of course, we also had to learn the metric system in the late 70's because everything would change to that as well, and...
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:49 am to Landmass
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the disasters have been numerous
Only 2 legit disasters
One was due to faulty Soviet design and massive human error
The other was due to a perfectly placed earthquake
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:50 am to Landmass
Wishes and magic.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:50 am to Landmass
Don’t worry about it, they have it all planned out carefully. When have the liberals not thoroughly vetted & strategized for cause & effect?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:59 am to Landmass
The problem with these types of discussions is people won't tell me what the definitions are for "clean", "green", "renewables", etc.
As soon as they tell me their objective with solid definitions, I can instantly kill the debate.
Generally speaking over the next 100-200 years humans will have to move away from fossil fuels, however, there is no rush and without better battery technology its a nuclear option only. In the meantime, there is no rush and there is no clean.
As soon as they tell me their objective with solid definitions, I can instantly kill the debate.
Generally speaking over the next 100-200 years humans will have to move away from fossil fuels, however, there is no rush and without better battery technology its a nuclear option only. In the meantime, there is no rush and there is no clean.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 9:02 am
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:59 am to Landmass
I have a "friend" who is a retired physicist who fully believes that our entire transportation system can operate on vehicles that run on rechargeable batteries. Basically he advocates that we have to settle for less. Which leads me to believe that democrats/liberals/proRegressives are basically Cowards. Just this morning NASA announced that they are pushing back their Moon landing to 2025. In the past that was not acceptable to Pres. Kennedy. Von Braun really wasn't interested in sending men to the Moon, his real goal was to send men to Mars. Along came a senator from Minnesota (Mondale) who basically shut down the Apollo Project stating that we needed to spend that money on social projects. Back to renewable sources of power. If you want to do some major construction (build a new plant, manufacturing facility) how far will that battery powered Cat bulldozer run? How will we run a steel plant on wind power? Will a refrigerated tractor trailer, carrying steak and ice cream , run very far on battery power? My next door neighbor has 3 teen sons that each have a car, along with his wife ,they total 5 vehicles. Imagine they all want to charge their cars ,all at the same time, each evening. Try to run a sewage treatment facility on solar power? All this shite is designed to wreck our Economy so that we will be eating beans and rice in the dark.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 9:02 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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people won't tell me what the definitions are for "clean", "green", "renewables", etc.
None of that matters... The goal is to reduce the amount of energy consumption and the only real way to do that is through a reduction of the population...
The issue they are going to have is the "people" are not going to willingly accept a reduction in their consumption, so it will have to be forced reduction...
Posted on 11/10/21 at 9:02 am to Centinel
Easiest way is likely “Cut down on the amount of power needed.”
Their solution tends to be a Final Solution.
Their solution tends to be a Final Solution.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 9:04 am to The Maj
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None of that matters... The goal is to reduce the amount of energy consumption and the only real way to do that is through a reduction of the population...
The issue they are going to have is the "people" are not going to willingly accept a reduction in their consumption, so it will have to be forced reduction...
Pretty much agree there, its not really a "clean", "renewable", "green", etc discussion... its about force Dark Age i.e. huge reduction in world population.
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