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How do you respond to this statement: The success of China is proof that Communism works.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:44 pm
China isn’t really Communist? But it is, it’s run by the literal Communist Party.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 7:46 pm
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:45 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Then move to China and see how fun living under a dictatorship can be
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:46 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
They have sweat shops of children making our clothes and shite for pennies an hour
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:46 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
The disaster that is Cuba is evidence that it doesn’t.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:46 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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How do you respond to this statement: The success of China is proof that Communism works
Success is a relative term
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China didn't start "working" until the market based reforms.
In other words, they aren't communist anymore
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:47 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
1) Can we safely say that China is successful, given the hard realities of a majority of its population?
2) Can the improvements that have occurred in Chinese society be attributed to communism, or to liberalized market reforms?
3) In what ways other than nominal designation is China actually communist?
2) Can the improvements that have occurred in Chinese society be attributed to communism, or to liberalized market reforms?
3) In what ways other than nominal designation is China actually communist?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:47 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
A success except for its people that are basically forced labor or rural poor.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:48 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
China is successful?
They have half our GDP and four times our population.
They have half our GDP and four times our population.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:48 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
What it does suggest is that capitalism isn't inherently linked to democracy and freer forms of government as Western Liberalism had believed from the Enlightenment onward. We will see if China will liberalize it's political structure in the next few decades.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:49 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Sure, China is, technically, a communist country. They also have some of the most lax labor laws in the advanced world. Enjoy.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:49 pm to GumboPot
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They have half our GDP and four times our population.
In less than 20 years their GDP has climbed from 1 trillion to 11 trillion. That's successful by any metric.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:49 pm to crazy4lsu
Alternatively, it could show that capitalism can democratize,and it doesn't have to go the other way first.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:50 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
quote:I would say that their success coincided with their involvement in the global market and capitalistic Principle, a move away from the policies of communism.
How do you respond to this statement: The success of China is proof that Communism works.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:51 pm to crazy4lsu
If you conscript the labor of 2 billion people to manufacture for the world, sure. It is a testament to the value of slave labor.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:51 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Just Do It.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:51 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Id also say demographics would prove to cause a discrepancy in the way out communism would work vs. there's
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:51 pm to crazy4lsu
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We will see if China will liberalize it's political structure in the next few decades.
I think they are likely to liberalize in less-essential ways, but the CCP likely realizes the troubles that come from divided power being subject to the whims of the polity. Control of policy is very unlikely to be affected by popular assent, I think.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:52 pm to crazy4lsu
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In less than 20 years their GDP has climbed from 1 trillion to 11 trillion. That's successful by any metric.
Because they have become more capitalist.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:52 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Guess you could say it works well for the govt, not so much for the people.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:52 pm to crazy4lsu
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What it does suggest is that capitalism isn't inherently linked to democracy and freer forms of government as Western Liberalism had believed from the Enlightenment onward.
Good point. Very interesting.
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