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re: How do you respond to this statement: The success of China is proof that Communism works.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:05 pm to Ag Zwin
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:05 pm to Ag Zwin
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You must be out your damn mind. Aside from the Uyghurs out west, that is a damn homogenous place. Yes, I know there is ethnic variation, but NOTHING like a stroll through New York or any other urban area here.
Have you ever been there?
Shhhhh...he’s just getting going.
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:06 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Please elaborate. They have an African- Chinese population of what? They have a Muslim- Chinese population of what? What about the American- Chinese or European- Chinese populations?
They have 10 million Muslim Han Chinese who are called the Hui, and 15 million Muslim Turkic people called the Uyghurs. The Hui aren't ethnically different from the Han Chinese, who are made up of numerous different ethnic groups, mostly invaders, who were sinicised. I think they have 55 different ethnic minorities, that make up about 10 percent of the population.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:06 pm to Ag Zwin
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Yes, I know there is ethnic variation, but NOTHING like a stroll through New York or any other urban area here.
I'm not talking about racial composition, but ethnic.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:07 pm to Ag Zwin
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Yes, I know there is ethnic variation
In older regions of the world, ethnic differences are very important.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:07 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
I would say 1 out of all the rest might not be the best gauge of its success rate. What is.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:08 pm to crazy4lsu
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I think they have 55 different ethnic minorities, that make up about 10 percent of the population.
So, much more homogenous than the USA.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:09 pm to HempHead
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China is more ethnically diverse...
No. It is not. And, there are a billion of them.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:10 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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How do you respond to this statement: The success of China is proof that Communism works.
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China isn’t really Communist
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:16 pm to crazy4lsu
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In older regions of the world, ethnic differences are very important.
In all the times I’ve been there and all the cities I’ve been to, I have never heard or seen or read of any friction beyond the Uyghurs or Tibetans. I realize it won’t exactly make the papers there, but I have spent a LOT of time there and know a lot of both expats and locals. I have never picked up on social friction about ethnic differences. In fact, the people I know think it’s silly that we obsess over it.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:17 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Capitalism saved them 
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:17 pm to Errerrerrwere
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So, much more homogenous than the USA.
They certainly aren't as homogeneous as people think. 71% of people speak Mandarin as a first language, which is slightly less than the percentage of Americans who speak English as their first language. The varieties of languages in the Sino-Tibetan tree certainly rivals the Romance languages in intelligibility.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:23 pm to Ag Zwin
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In all the times I’ve been there and all the cities I’ve been to, I have never heard or seen or read of any friction beyond the Uyghurs or Tibetans. I realize it won’t exactly make the papers there, but I have spent a LOT of time there and know a lot of both expats and locals. I have never picked up on social friction about ethnic differences. In fact, the people I know think it’s silly that we obsess over it.
I was speaking generally. The Han Chinese have been very good at making invading groups "Chinese" more or less, a process called sinicization. This includes Turkic and other Steppe peoples, a process which occurred because of integration over time. Taiwan had a heavy policy of sinicization after the civil war for example.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:30 pm to therick711
Unions and Mississippi.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:30 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Yeah, ask the Chinese who had to move from the Huang He river valley after being there for thousands of year because the government dammed it up. Reparations? Nope. For your country!
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:35 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Let's see. In Beijing, you have to live within a mile from your place of work. IF you're LUCKY enough to win the vehicle lottery to get a license plate for your already astronomically expensive car, you only get to drive it on select days of the week.
Sounds like a wonderful place eh?
Sounds like a wonderful place eh?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:36 pm to The Levee
Also, China is virtually a free market economy run by an oligarchy head of state. Basically a select few making policy decisions for the best interest of their people.
Deng Xioping is the reason this is working out better for them POST Mao. Mao was straight up Marxist and it resulted in the deaths of MILLIONS of Chinese.
Deng Xioping is the reason this is working out better for them POST Mao. Mao was straight up Marxist and it resulted in the deaths of MILLIONS of Chinese.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:40 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Your definition of “success” and mine are wayyy different.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:41 pm to ShortyRob
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China didn't start "working" until the market based reforms.
This.
Tell whoever is talking to look at China’s real communist past, particularly The Great Leap Forward.
China is not just a communist state that’s propped up by free market clients, it is a brutal dictatorship that depends on cheap, sweatshop labor to remain in existence.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:43 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
We were pretty successful with slaves
Posted on 2/22/18 at 8:44 pm to DownSouthJukin
I should add a Global Free Market economy. On the MACRO level.
The actual people of China suffer many different restrictions on daily life including child labor, no minimum wage or welfare and horrid health care.
Not to mention the worst pollution levels in the world.
The actual people of China suffer many different restrictions on daily life including child labor, no minimum wage or welfare and horrid health care.
Not to mention the worst pollution levels in the world.
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