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re: How did John Kennedy get so popular in Louisiana?

Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:58 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:58 am to
Catholic
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
794 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:01 am to
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He’s shown some real fight in the Senate and people love him for it. He would have beaten John Bel Edwards by 20 points.


Senate perches are safe and prestigious. I think the problem for Kennedy was, he's 67 years old and right now he's one of 100 senators, everyone kisses his butt, and if the national government has a bad day he won't lose his job. Running for governor means giving that up to go listen to griping and moaning from the mayor of every small town where the lights go out or needs road repairs, budget battles, doling out favors, and the day a plant closes or catches fire, everybody says "he's destroying the state."

Who needs that, at his age? He can coast on into his 70s for another term or two and be perfectly content.

Personally I think he only toyed with the idea of running so as to keep flexing his political muscles so people wouldn't think of him as a nonfactor. He had no intention of running.

Another thing about him. He's been a gadfly for 20 years. Whoever was governor, Kennedy always had some smart-aleck remark about how they were doing things wrong, the budget process was a joke, etc etc. Actually being the governor meant giving up that armchair quarterback role and seeing if he could do the job rather than sit back and second guess all the people who did. I think he would have seen some of the shine come off of his image if he did that, and people would be only too happy to jam his words back down his throat when times got tough. I'm certain that crossed his mind too.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:02 am to
Name recognition via being around forever.

He got started as head of Revenue after Foster got elected, parlayed that into a run for Treasurer, and pushed a media campaign about lost property to get his name out there giving you back “your money”.
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
794 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:05 am to
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He is NOT what he appears to be. He is a hard core pay to play politician. If you think otherwise, you would be gravely mistaken.

I've seen him in action up close and personal.

Lots of funny quips, sure. Want something from him, bring cash.


I'm sure you are not accusing him of taking bribes?

If all you are saying is he wants campaign donations, I don't see how that makes him one bit different from any other politician. They want campaign money above everything else- second only to votes.
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:07 am to
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He’s shown some real fight in the Senate and people love him for it.


There you go.

Apparently calling an escort is more unforgivable than being a Democrat in Louisiana, because we love him and hated Vitter, event though Vitter was a conservative juggernaut in the Senate.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 9:25 am
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:10 am to
If you win, many folks fall in line. Ala Trump
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27940 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:10 am to
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Howell Heflin


Man, I loved hearing that guy talk. He was a seriously good orator, and the cornball voice was what made it all work. If he had a neutral accent, it wouldn't be nearly as effective.

I always thought his voice was a copy of Mr. Haney from Green Acres.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6450 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:18 am to
Kennedy is all about Kennedy. He was great at politicizing the Treasurer office. He would throw out "solutions" to fix problems that did not work, and when the legislature and governor would ignore his stupid ideas, he would bash them for it, and complain loudly about how he was being ignored.

He was all hat and no cowboy, but his self manufactured clash with the legislature and governor grew his brand tremendously, and gave the impression that he was fighting for the people of Louisiana.

He could have won this governors race, because he really resonates with the low information folks who think this state's many structural problems can be easily fixed., but as long as he gets to get on CNN and spin his good ole boy routine he is happy to stay in Washington. Running fir governor means he is actually accountable for something. He'd much rather lob grenades at someone doing a job, than try to do the job himself.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 9:23 am
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:19 am to
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He could own this state if he wanted to.


He will in 4 years after JBE is re-elected. The majority of older Republicans in this state once were Democrats, they just changed parties. If Rispone wins, then Kennedy must wait 8 years before making a run for governor. The man did a good job as state treasurer, and even criticized Jindal's budgets and policies when needed.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14493 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:27 am to
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Kennedy is all about Kennedy. He was great at politicizing the Treasurer office. He would throw out "solutions" to fix problems that did not work, and when the legislature and governor would ignore his stupid ideas, he would bash them for it, and complain loudly about how he was being ignored.

He was all hat and no cowboy, but his self manufactured clash with the legislature and governor grew his brand tremendously, and gave the impression that he was fighting for the people of Louisiana.

He could have won this governors race, because he really resonates with the low information folks who think this state's many structural problems can be easily fixed., but as long as he gets to get on CNN and spin his good ole boy routine he is happy to stay in Washington. Running fir governor means he is actually accountable for something. He'd much rather lob grenades at someone doing a job, than try to do the job himself.



All of this
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6450 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:30 am to
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He will in 4 years after JBE is re-elected. The majority of older Republicans in this state once were Democrats, they just changed parties. If Rispone wins, then Kennedy must wait 8 years before making a run for governor. The man did a good job as state treasurer, and even criticized Jindal's budgets and policies when needed.


But to anyone with a deep understanding of the state budget... his criticisms were dumb.

For example the state has contracts with audit firms to conduct various cost report audits for programs at DHH, LED, LWC, and im sure other agencies. The participants in various programs pay the costs of the audits to the state, and the state pays the CPAs. Kennedy took one of those contract and read about how the state had a 2.5 million dollar contract with a CPA firm, and that was ridiculous, and it needed to be cut by 10%.

He never understood that it wasn't state money being spent, and by privitizing this audit function the state was saving millions.

Another example is he complained about a statue that cost $25000 dollars and said that should be cut from the budget, but the statue in question was paid for by a federal grant to beautify college campuses, so while it could be cut, it would also cut $25000 in income, so you have done nothing to reduce the state budget.
Posted by Mattgobear
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3048 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:31 am to
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Name recognition via being around forever. He got started as head of Revenue after Foster got elected, parlayed that into a run for Treasurer, and pushed a media campaign about lost property to get his name out there giving you back “your money”.


This. He actually was a good treasurer, but Jindal wouldn't listen to some of the ideas that he had hence why the state nearly went bankrupt.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146720 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:32 am to
I had no idea he was a democrat.

People love him because he says WHATEVER is on his mind...
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22292 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:44 am to
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Howell Heflin
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Foghorn Leghorn
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I always thought his voice was a copy of Mr. Haney from Green Acres.

My thoughts exactly! Howell Heflin expounds on "No Tie" Hawkins.

Also, need to throw Fritz Hollings in the mix: LINK
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 10:33 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14493 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:19 am to
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He never understood that it wasn't state money being spent,


Of course he understood, he is a smart, knowledgeable guy. He just DGAF. He got the headlines and is now a US Senator where he gets to do that all day.

My biggest criticism of Kennedy isn't that he proposed dumb solutions, it is that he cynically knew they were dumb solutions but that people didn't know enough to understand it.

That said, would love if he were governor instead of JBE.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:31 am to
I don't think he's that popular. I know lots of people who voted for him but they're not big fans. They just prefer him to the Dem alternative.
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