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How did it come to pass that a president can invoke executive orders?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:37 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:37 am
I never really paid much attention to EOs until the Obama years, but I don’t remember Clinton or the Bushes using them much.
How did this executive overreach come about?
How did this executive overreach come about?
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:38 am to Eli Goldfinger
It may be a chicken or the egg question, but I would say, when Congress stopped actually operating as a legislative body.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:38 am to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:39 am to Eli Goldfinger
The day one was issued and Congress didn’t challenge it. Checks and balances began to die.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:39 am to Eli Goldfinger
Biden and Obama mostly did them out of laziness.
Both controlled both houses of congress.
Both controlled both houses of congress.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:41 am to Eli Goldfinger
Clinton, Bush, and Obama all used Executive orders extensively. Bush has the most, though quantity doesn't really mean much. Obama's were likely the most impactful to policy.
Trump used almost as many in 4 years as his three predecessors did in their 8, but many of Trump's EOs weakened the executive branch and took powers away.
Trump used almost as many in 4 years as his three predecessors did in their 8, but many of Trump's EOs weakened the executive branch and took powers away.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:42 am to Eli Goldfinger
Congress passes laws.
Executive enforces them.
EOs were supposed to be directives to agencies regarding enforcement.
Executive enforces them.
EOs were supposed to be directives to agencies regarding enforcement.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:44 am to Eli Goldfinger
Do you know what they even are? The president doesn't control everything. He only controls the executive branch. Go do some research on the limitations ON EOs.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:44 am to udtiger
Basically correct.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:44 am to Eli Goldfinger
It's not new by any means:
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:45 am to baybeefeetz
regardless, you’re cool with 37 in a week?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:47 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
but I would say, when Congress stopped actually operating as a legislative body.
Absolutely this.
Congress abrogated its responsibility to legislate starting about 100 years ago. It's more easy to get reelected if you can off-load your controversial and painful legislative imperatives to a non-elected body like an Executive Agency.
So, that's what they did. Now, instead of Congress passing statutes, we have Executive Agencies promulgating Federal Regulations that have the force of law.
The die is cast and the Rubicon is crossed. If we as a society just begin now to notice a process that began 100 years ago, it's probably to late to do something about it now.
IMHO, it's too late now. The Executive will gather more and more power as the decades roll by.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:49 am to Klark Kent
37?
Already?
Where can I keep track of this?
Already?
Where can I keep track of this?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:53 am to Eli Goldfinger
Thomas Jefferson with the Louisiana purchase.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:53 am to theunknownknight
How the heck did they have so many teed up?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:55 am to Eli Goldfinger
Congress hasn't challenged EOs because Congress doesn't like taking positions on things. Two examples off the top of my head:
War is supposed to be declared by Congress. War in Vietnam was very controversial especially after the Korean war. Congress doesn't like controversy so the Vietnam war was never declared by Congress.
Abortion is legal throughout most of the developed world. In every country it is a legislative act. Not in the U.S. Too controversial for Congress. So, they used a Judicial act and live in constant fear that it might be overturned and swing back to Congressional vote.
War is supposed to be declared by Congress. War in Vietnam was very controversial especially after the Korean war. Congress doesn't like controversy so the Vietnam war was never declared by Congress.
Abortion is legal throughout most of the developed world. In every country it is a legislative act. Not in the U.S. Too controversial for Congress. So, they used a Judicial act and live in constant fear that it might be overturned and swing back to Congressional vote.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:56 am to baybeefeetz
Once again a question was posed by OP.
and you respond, like a bitch, with:
Nice job. Again. Counselor.
quote:
How did it come to pass that a president can invoke executive orders?
and you respond, like a bitch, with:
quote:
Do you know what they even are? The president doesn't control everything. He only controls the executive branch. Go do some research on the limitations ON EOs.
Nice job. Again. Counselor.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:56 am to EKG
quote:What? The Democrats are being hypocritical? Imagine that!
EKG
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:57 am to LSUfan20005
quote:
How the heck did they have so many teed up?
Same reason the Supreme Court made EO’s effectively law a few months ago
They all KNEW Biden was going to be president
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:57 am to LSUfan20005
quote:
How the heck did they have so many teed up?
They've probably had them written for 2 or 3 years.
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