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Powerman
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How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
The text of the 24th amendment would seem pretty clear that they're not

What am I missing here?

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The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.


Or are they referring to something else when they refer to primary here?


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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
You can vote in the “primary” election. You just have to choose one party.


GeorgeWest
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
That means you cannot be forbidden to vote because you did not pay a tax to vote. Poll taxes were used in the South to limit blacks and poor whites from voting.

Political parties control Presidential primaries and can determine who is one the ballot and who is eligible to vote. Those are determined by states.


TigerintheNO
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
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The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.


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Rebel
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
I guess that’s what some people say when they are “registered Republican”

I’m my State you can’t register to a party.

You just choose an R or D when it’s a primary and the appropriate candidates come on the screen.


DTRooster
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
That’s was a Democrat thing that’s ashes in the wind


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SlapahoeTribe
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
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by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax

I think this is the important part.


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MintBerry Crunch
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
Finish reading the amendment. It's right there in your sentence.


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Powerman
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
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You can vote in the “primary” election. You just have to choose one party.
It says "any" primary election

Doesn't say you have to choose


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troyt37
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
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shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.


You’re emphasis is on the wrong part. None of that means democrats can choose the republican candidate, or vice versa. All primaries should be closed. Hell, republicans allow important, early primaries to be in states that are generationally democrat, with open primaries. That’s how you get Romney and McCain for candidates.

Republicans should schedule primaries by the percentage of the state that voted republican in the last presidential election. Iowa and New Hampshire can suck it.


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maizegoblue
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
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I guess that’s what some people say when they are “registered Republican” I’m my State you can’t register to a party. You just choose an R or D when it’s a primary and the appropriate candidates come on the screen.


That's how it was in Michigan. In Florida I had to register as a Republican to vote in the primary. It differs by state. I don't mind the idea of registering for a party to vote in the primary, but I don't think that should or needs to be public information if you google my name, that is BS.


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SammyTiger
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
Did you finish the sentence?


TaTa Toothy
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
Did you read it as "How are closed primates considered constitutional?"


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Jack Bauers HnK
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
It means that the political parties cannot tax you to vote in their primaries, not that you have a right to vote in any primary. Read the whole sentence.


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ChineseBandit58
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
Seems to be restricted to 'poll tax' for the reason for not allowed to vote.


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ChineseBandit58
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
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All primaries should be closed.




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Oilfieldbiology
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
Last I checked there is no fee to join a party


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Parmen
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
A political party is a private entity. You have no right to vote in their primary.


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CarrolltonTiger
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re: How are closed primaries considered constitutional?
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Poll taxes were used in the South to limit blacks and poor whites from voting.


What were they used for outside of the South?

What were property requirements to vote used for?


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