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How accurate are the COVID tests?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 12:14 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 12:14 am
We are relying on a test that was hastily developed in a matter of weeks for the safety and well being of millions of people, but no one seems concerned with its accuracy. How are we insuring that we avoid false positive results given the massive level of testing we are currently doing? Social and economic decisions are being made based off these numbers. Who is liable if it turns out tens of thousands of people tested positive, but were actually negative?
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 12:19 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 12:18 am to Blizzard of Chizz
i don't trust the tests at all....
Posted on 7/16/20 at 12:22 am to Blizzard of Chizz
I don't trust anything related to any of this. At all.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 12:25 am to Blizzard of Chizz
According to the daily briefings by the Governor to local government they're up to about 80% accuracy.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 12:27 am to Blizzard of Chizz
How anybody with a brain that functions can still believe in COVID/Pandemic is beyond me. How many times do you need to be deceived before you stop letting people frick with your life?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:20 am to GeauxTrain
This sounds correct. I was told at my facility recently that there's a 30% for a false negative. My SO was tested twice and both came back negative, but neither visit could affirm she was covid negative.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 4:01 am to Blizzard of Chizz
They are useless. If you can test positive for CV without actually being tested... you tell me how accurate the test results are!!!
Posted on 7/16/20 at 4:16 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:IDK where that thought comes from. Accuracy is of significant concern.
but no one seems concerned with its accuracy.
There are two categories of tests, those designed to detect virus and tests for antibodies. Accuracy varies by test. For the Viral (PCR) tests, False Negatives are of particular concern. For Antibody tests, False Positives are the concern.
Viral (PCR) tests
• The latest CDC PCR (Virus) test now runs virtually a 0.0% false negative rate. Doesn't get much better than that. It is (finally) the most accurate PCR available.
• The Roche PCR test run a 3.5% false negative rate.
Both CDC and Roche tests require slower turnarounds, often a few days.
• Cepheid's test provides results in less than hour with a 1.8% FNR.
• Abbott's test is popular because it returns results in 15 minutes, but it has a nearly 15% FNR.
Antibody Tests
Several Antibody Tests run >10% false positives. 3 or 4 are at 1% but false negative can be high ~10%
Posted on 7/16/20 at 5:51 am to Blizzard of Chizz
My 80 year old dad was tested because of contact with positive tested person. He tested positive. Not one single symptom and test was 3 weeks ago
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:18 am to NC_Tigah
What about false positive results? Or is a false negative the same thing?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:21 am to mtntiger
So my neighbor is a nurse at Emory and she said at her hospital they have 40 COVID patients. But she said a number of them are PUI (Patients Under Investigation) which means they haven’t tested positive but have been potentially exposed and they are counted as COVID even though they haven’t tested positive. I mean WTF?!?!??
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:30 am to Blizzard of Chizz
A friend of a friend talked to someone within the Health Department and nothing about the CV testing makes sense with regards to other forms of testing. there is alot of confusion.
( know, I know, "sauces." But I would say that there's some truth to based on the outcome that has errybody confused.
( know, I know, "sauces." But I would say that there's some truth to based on the outcome that has errybody confused.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:48 am to mtntiger
quote:Not much of an issue with the PCRs.
What about false positive results?
quote:No
Or is a false negative the same thing?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:52 am to Blizzard of Chizz
On top of questions of accuracy are also questions of how they're recorded and the always manipulative when and how numbers are released.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:53 am to NC_Tigah
I think I had CV in March. Took an antibody test and came back negative. I asked the nurse how many tests came back positive. Zero.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:55 am to davyjones
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On top of questions of accuracy are also questions of how they're recorded and the always manipulative when and how numbers are released.
I'm way more concerned with how the results are reported than the actual accuracy of the tests.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:55 am to Blizzard of Chizz
I don’t know why anyone would trust the test themselves (or the data associated with them). At this point, this is a massive clusterfrick.
FWIW, I am not a “virus denier,” I just have enough sense not to trust a bureaucracy.
FWIW, I am not a “virus denier,” I just have enough sense not to trust a bureaucracy.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:14 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Buddy of mine works for Halliburton. He tests each week. They use the test that doesn’t use the q-tip and gets results same day. Few weeks ago he tests positive so the next day they get him to test again. Negative. So their “policy” is take a third and whatever that says, that’s what we’ll go with. He tested negative lol. He works from home 99% of the time right now anyway
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:16 am to Blizzard of Chizz
I don’t trust them. In my own family, my grandad tested positive and he’s 90 and not in good health. He showed no symptoms and is completely fine. He only got tested prior to having a small procedure. Everyone else in our family tested negative after being around him the previous few days. He’s had 2 negative tests since.
I know a family of 5 who all got sick at the same time last week with fever and general respiratory problems. 3 of the 5 tested positive. How’s that make any sense?
I know a family of 5 who all got sick at the same time last week with fever and general respiratory problems. 3 of the 5 tested positive. How’s that make any sense?
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 7:20 am
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