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Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:19 am to Blizzard of Chizz
FL labs busted reporting fake positives
Funny how doctors, hospitals, and labs are incentivized to make positives.
Funny how doctors, hospitals, and labs are incentivized to make positives.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:21 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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How accurate are the COVID tests?
Depends on a whole host of things... I am certain some of the tests are accurate... However, I have heard and seen from too many places about high false positives, "clean" test kits testing positive, manipulation of numbers, etc, etc to even remotely believe any numbers that are being put out right now...
I also do not doubt that there are some test kits that have been manipulated (either through process pieces or manufacturing) that have been intentionally rigged to make the numbers explode...
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:26 am to Blizzard of Chizz
I'm 100% positive that a 100% of the people the tested positive are not positive. More so, 100% of the people who tested negative could be 100% positive. On the flip side of that,
I 100% don't give a frick anymore.
I 100% don't give a frick anymore.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:32 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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How accurate are the COVID tests?
How politicized are the COVID tests?
FIFY
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:43 am to 10MTNTiger
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100% positive
Came to say this. Well done sir.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:48 am to Blizzard of Chizz
90% of positive tests are false positives
dimrats dont care, need need way more testing to steal the election with the largest massive voter fraud scheme ever to be attempted with mail in and voting by text
dimrats dont care, need need way more testing to steal the election with the largest massive voter fraud scheme ever to be attempted with mail in and voting by text
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:49 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Probably about as accurate as political polls
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:51 am to David_DJS
I made a post that asked "How many times can someone lie to you before you stop trusting them"....
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:51 am to Blizzard of Chizz
100% positive 100% of the time
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:54 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Officials locally are saying 80%. No idea how they can arrive at a % unless they are testing a patient that is confirmed with COVID 40-50 times to compare results. That would be a starting point but this needs to be repeated on dozens or more COVID positive people.
80% sounds like a horseshite Guess
80% sounds like a horseshite Guess
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:25 am to Blizzard of Chizz
I would say that they are pretty dang accurate. I think the problem is how many times are they counted. For instance, if you test positive and then retest positive, that should be reported as one positive but is likely recorded as two. Inflate numbers pretty quickly that way.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:14 am to NC_Tigah
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Not much of an issue with the PCRs.
Just curious, have you ever designed, tested and validated a qPCR assay?
The PCR will pick up other strains of corona virus, so there is an issue with false positives. The very first qPCR test used by the CDC was laughable and showed such incompetence that we should not trust ANYTHING from the CDC.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:37 am to NC_Tigah
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• Abbott's test is popular because it returns results in 15 minutes, but it has a nearly 15% FNR.
Are you talking about our ID Now test? We make more than one PCR assay.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:40 am to NC_Tigah
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quote: What about false positive results?
Not much of an issue with the PCRs.
I read that the PCR will pick up the pieces of virus already destroyed - i.e., what has already been destroyed in a person who has recovered. This is what confused doctors and researchers when recovered patients kept testing positive. Is that not a type of false positive, being that there is not actually any whole, live virus remaining, but a person tests positive for Covid-19?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:57 am to nerd guy
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Are you talking about our ID Now test? We make more than one PCR assay
The only assay in that list that is qPCR based is under the Viral RNA column. Also, it is called Quantitative PCR or REal-Time PCR, which takes measurements at the end of each PCR cycle. "PCR" is an endpoint measurement and is not the sample as qPCR.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:01 am to NC_Tigah
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What about false positive results?
Not much of an issue with the PCRs.
Wait...what does this mean? Is it "not much of issue" - meaning it does not happen. Or, "not much of an issue"- meaning only false Negatives are important.
If the latter....a test that ALWAYS (100% of the time) says "positive" would meet that goal and be bullshite at the same time. No?
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 10:02 am
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:13 am to mtntiger
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What about false positive results? Or is a false negative the same thing?
These tests were purposely created to have a plethora of false positives.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 11:11 am to mooseofterror
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The only assay in that list that is qPCR based is under the Viral RNA column. Also, it is called Quantitative PCR or REal-Time PCR, which takes measurements at the end of each PCR cycle. "PCR" is an endpoint measurement and is not the sample as qPCR.
I know enough about PCR, my friend.
Saying assays run on our m2000 and Alinity m have a 15% false negative rate would be incorrect. m2000 and Alinity m are nothing like the ID Now.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 11:16 am to Blizzard of Chizz
I did not think there was just one set of tests. My understanding is that Tulane medical center developed and uses their own tests.
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