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re: House report backs claim that FBI agents did not think Flynn lied, despite guilty plea
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:57 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:57 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
You are all in on deep state, aren't you? Are you at least open to the chance that you are completely wrong?
So not only was FLynn innocent of everything and unfairly targeted, but his son was also too?
So not only was FLynn innocent of everything and unfairly targeted, but his son was also too?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:01 pm to brian_wilson
People still don't understand what a plea deal is
Flynn was happy to plead guilty to the lying charge
Flynn was happy to plead guilty to the lying charge
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:04 pm to brian_wilson
quote:
You are all in on deep state, aren't you? Are you at least open to the chance that you are completely wrong?
So not only was FLynn innocent of everything and unfairly targeted, but his son was also too?
I would suggest you go back and reread, at NO point did I say I believed that is what happened. I merely stated that it is possible and DOES happen.
Yes, as a former investigator I know for a fact that people sometimes plead guilty to crimes they didn't commit. For a variety of reasons (most of them having to do with an overzealous investigator)
You no more know that Flynn lied than I know he didn't, but unlike you I have experience in this area and now that people DO plead guilty to crimes they haven't committed, it happens.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:06 pm to JuiceTerry
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Flynn was happy to plead guilty to the lying charge
This is my thought too. While we don't have a ton of details on the kidnapping plot, that charge carries some serious jail time. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if kidnapping also violates PA state law.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:09 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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You know more know that Flynn lied than I know he didn't, but unlike you I have experience in this area and now that people DO plead guilty to crimes they haven't committed, it happens.
how do you know what my experience is? I work in the legal industry fwiw.
And yes, people have pleaded guilty to crimes they didn't commit to avoid jail time. However, very few of them were offered pardons.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:11 pm to brian_wilson
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This is my thought too. While we don't have a ton of details on the kidnapping plot, that charge carries some serious jail time. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if kidnapping also violates PA state law.
Wrong. The USG can NOT charge you for a crime committed in another country against someone who isn't associated with the United States in any way.
For example, if you flew to Moscow , shot Putin in the head and flew back to whatever trailer park you live in, The FBI couldn't arrest you and charge you with murder.
No jurisdiction.
See, you dumb shits are so easy to debunk at EVERY turn.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:14 pm to brian_wilson
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This is my thought too. While we don't have a ton of details on the kidnapping plot, that charge carries some serious jail time. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if kidnapping also violates PA state law.
You are truly delusional. The guy was the victim of a political witch hunt which for all purposes bankrupted him and these politically motivated prosecutors started targeting his son and other family members which would have forced them into bankruptcy defending themselves regardless of whether charges were filed or not.
The Feds don't care if someone is innocent or guilty they aim to make you bleed financially if they don't like you.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:15 pm to brian_wilson
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how do you know what my experience is? I work in the legal industry fwiw.
And yes, people have pleaded guilty to crimes they didn't commit to avoid jail time. However, very few of them were offered pardons.
You must be a Court Runner because you sure as shite aren't an attorney. based on what you have posted here you don't have a shot in hell of passing the bar exam.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:24 pm to brian_wilson
quote:Wow just wow. And Trump never formally offered Flynn a pardon. There for awhile the Brennans and Peter Stroker Page's had Flynn wrongly looking like a dirtbag. Flynn won't need a pardon anyway but your great legal mind won't ever get this...
how do you know what my experience is? I work in the legal industry fwiw.
And yes, people have pleaded guilty to crimes they didn't commit to avoid jail time. However, very few of them were offered pardons.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:27 pm to brian_wilson
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However, very few of them were offered pardons.
Flynn wasn't offered a pardon either. Moron
Also, being a janitor as some mom and pop lawyer's office doesn't mean you are in the legal profession.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:29 pm to brian_wilson
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Trump could always pardon him for it, and then it goes away.
Good Lord you people don't have a shred of honesty or decency.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:31 pm to brian_wilson
Read this carefully. It may slowly come to you...
Judicial order in Flynn case prompts new round of scrutiny | TheHill
Mueller team seeks delay in Flynn sentencing | Fox News
Judicial order in Flynn case prompts new round of scrutiny | TheHill
Mueller team seeks delay in Flynn sentencing | Fox News
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:35 pm to brian_wilson
quote:
You are all in on deep state
I'm not a crazy about it, but that term does have some truth to it.
quote:
So not only was FLynn innocent of everything and unfairly targeted
Overall, as far as I can read, yes. If he lied to the FBI he was lying about something that was not a crime. The worst they would have him on is b.s. FARA charge. I think one entity in the past 10-15 years ever had any real penalty like jail....it's usually a fine and you have to go and register as a foreign agent.....no US citizen goes to jail for a FARA beef
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:37 pm to cajunangelle
I hope Flynn makes good money on his book deal after the charges are dismissed and the plea is thrown out. And, I would love to see his claims against the federal government make it rain for him.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:38 pm to KiwiHead
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Overall, as far as I can read, yes. If he lied to the FBI he was lying about something that was not a crime. The worst they would have him on is b.s. FARA charge. I think one entity in the past 10-15 years ever had any real penalty like jail....it's usually a fine and you have to go and register as a foreign agent.....no US citizen goes to jail for a FARA beef
I disagree, when Flynn was in Afghanistan, he was investigated for giving classified material to our allies without approval (which is against the UCMJ) he admitted to doing it, but the Army decided not to press charges.
He shouldn't have been anywhere near a Presidential candidate who was screaming "lock her up" about another person who has mishandled classified material.
Now, that doesnt have any bearing on whether he lied to the FBI or not, but it proves Flynn wasn't some complete innocent.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:41 pm to cajunangelle
And yet he asked for immunity
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:44 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Incoming full pardon for the Patriot known as Flynn!!!
He lost his home, those fks should be made to pay out of their own damn pockets for malicious prosecution.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:45 pm to asurob1
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And yet he asked for immunity
Cheryl Mills didn't even have to ask.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:46 pm to brian_wilson
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work in the legal industry fwiw.
No you don't.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:48 pm to asurob1
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And yet he asked for immunity
Pleading guilty is a pretty big hole in that immunity deal then.
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