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re: House of Representatives voting on new speaker (No one elected after 1st vote)
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:56 pm to pankReb
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:56 pm to pankReb
Moral vanity. No more, no less. They are just better human beings, more principled, heroes of their own narratives, bold, courageous, indispensable-and you need to know that, Mr Man!
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:58 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Non-Jordan votes … please correct me, as I believe I missed a few:
Chavez-DeRemer, Lori (R-OR) - McCarthy
Bacon, Don (R-NE) - McCarthy
Buck, Ken (R-CO) - Emmer
DesJarlais, Scott (R-TN) - Zeldin
Diaz-Balart, Mario (R-FL) Scalise
Ellzey, Jake (R-TX) - Garcia
James, John (R- MI) - Cole
Kelly, Mike (R-PA) - Scalise
Kiggans, Jennifer (R-VA) - McCarthy
LaLota, Nick (R-NY) - Zeldin
La Malfa, Doug (R-CA) - McCarthy
Lawyer, Michael (R-NY) - McCarthy
Rutherford, John (R-FL) - Scalise
Simpson, Michael (R-ID) - Scalise
Spartz, Victoria (R-IN) Massie
Womack, Steve (R-AR) - Scalise
Chavez-DeRemer, Lori (R-OR) - McCarthy
Bacon, Don (R-NE) - McCarthy
Buck, Ken (R-CO) - Emmer
DesJarlais, Scott (R-TN) - Zeldin
Diaz-Balart, Mario (R-FL) Scalise
Ellzey, Jake (R-TX) - Garcia
James, John (R- MI) - Cole
Kelly, Mike (R-PA) - Scalise
Kiggans, Jennifer (R-VA) - McCarthy
LaLota, Nick (R-NY) - Zeldin
La Malfa, Doug (R-CA) - McCarthy
Lawyer, Michael (R-NY) - McCarthy
Rutherford, John (R-FL) - Scalise
Simpson, Michael (R-ID) - Scalise
Spartz, Victoria (R-IN) Massie
Womack, Steve (R-AR) - Scalise
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:58 pm to Classy Doge
Once it was known (during this voting round) that JJ lost, the others who followed and didn’t vote JJ just threw out random names.
Its politics. They hope a sidebar discussion gets them something for a vote in following rounds.
McCarthy lied and made too many promises to get enough votes. He basically then sided with Dems on major topics and sold our country out and lied about his promises - good riddance!. We had control of purse strings and he gave that away. So here we are.
After some losing rounds the holdouts will ask for their things and as pols they will all negotiate and eventually JJ will win it. The trick is how much does he have to give up to win. He doesn’t need all of them but does need all but 3.
Its politics. They hope a sidebar discussion gets them something for a vote in following rounds.
McCarthy lied and made too many promises to get enough votes. He basically then sided with Dems on major topics and sold our country out and lied about his promises - good riddance!. We had control of purse strings and he gave that away. So here we are.
After some losing rounds the holdouts will ask for their things and as pols they will all negotiate and eventually JJ will win it. The trick is how much does he have to give up to win. He doesn’t need all of them but does need all but 3.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:58 pm to LSUFanHouston
Scalise should have taken it to the floor. Thats on him and the path he chose, and thats fine. You have to put people on record with a vote. Thats how you get so said vote changed.
Jordan took it to the floor for a vote. Jordan is putting people on record...two of those being McCarthy and Scalise, who voted for Jordan.
If it never goes to the floor, then it might as well have never happened. Its all here say.
Every single Democrat voted in sync. Rpublicans have idiots voting for people that dont even want the SOH possition
Jordan took it to the floor for a vote. Jordan is putting people on record...two of those being McCarthy and Scalise, who voted for Jordan.
If it never goes to the floor, then it might as well have never happened. Its all here say.
Every single Democrat voted in sync. Rpublicans have idiots voting for people that dont even want the SOH possition
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:59 pm to EKG
quote:
Democrats are nominating Hakeem Jeffries.
I think this officially means Jeffries is the biggest loser in House history. Has now lost more Speaker votes than any congressman in history!!!
Congrats Hakeem! You have now lost more than anyone else in history whose gotten at least 1 vote
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:59 pm to PaperTiger
So what happens now? Genuine question
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:59 pm to EKG
quote:
Chavez-DeRemer, Lori (R-OR) - McCarthy
Bacon, Don (R-NE) - McCarthy
Buck, Ken (R-CO) - Emmer
DesJarlais, Scott (R-TN) - Zeldin
Diaz-Balart, Mario (R-FL) Scalise
Ellzey, Jake (R-TX) - Garcia
James, John (R- MI) - Cole
Kelly, Mike (R-PA) - Scalise
Kiggans, Jennifer (R-VA) - McCarthy
LaLota, Nick (R-NY) - Zeldin
La Malfa, Doug (R-CA) - McCarthy
Lawyer, Michael (R-NY) - McCarthy
Rutherford, John (R-FL) - Scalise
Simpson, Michael (R-ID) - Scalise
Spartz, Victoria (R-IN) Massie
Womack, Steve (R-AR) - Scalise
Will all have their hand out to get some BS pork sent their way to secure a vote for Jordan.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:00 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
That's not what this is. This is an ideological battle playing out.
It's not "dysfunction." It's how we are SUPPOSED TO function.
We've basically reached a point where the GOP has split into two parties, they just haven't made it official yet.
In countries that have more than two parties and no party has a majority, you have a coalition government.
Those are put together behind closed doors and when it's time, a united front is put together in public.
That's how it is SUPPOSED TO function. Not this chinese fire drill crap.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:00 pm to EKG
quote:
Non-Jordan votes … please correct me, as I believe I missed a few:
Chavez-DeRemer, Lori (R-OR) - McCarthy
Bacon, Don (R-NE) - McCarthy
Buck, Ken (R-CO) - Emmer
DesJarlais, Scott (R-TN) - Zeldin
Diaz-Balart, Mario (R-FL) Scalise
Ellzey, Jake (R-TX) - Garcia
James, John (R- MI) - Cole
Kelly, Mike (R-PA) - Scalise
Kiggans, Jennifer (R-VA) - McCarthy
LaLota, Nick (R-NY) - Zeldin
La Malfa, Doug (R-CA) - McCarthy
Lawyer, Michael (R-NY) - McCarthy
Rutherford, John (R-FL) - Scalise
Simpson, Michael (R-ID) - Scalise
Spartz, Victoria (R-IN) Massie
Womack, Steve (R-AR) - Scalise
Lets compare that to the list I saw this morning:
FIRM NO:
Don Bacon
Mike Lawler
Mike Kelly
Carlos Gimenez
Mario Diaz Balart
LEANING NO:
Ken Buck
Victoria Spartz
Steve Womack
Marianette Miller-Meeks
UNDECIDED/NOT SAYING:
Young Kim
John Rutherford
Juan Ciscomani
Tom Kean Jr
ABSENT:
Gus Bilirakis (Funeral, but was yes for JJ)
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:00 pm to teamjackson
quote:
So what happens now? Genuine question
People that didn’t vote for Jordan will approach the rest of the GOP/Jordan for appointments, more money, campaign funds, etc. This will go on until they each get enough to vote yah
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:00 pm to LSUAlum2001
quote:
Will all have their hand out to get some BS pork sent their way to secure a vote for Jordan.
Wow that would be a real swamp move from alleged anti-swamper Jim
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:01 pm to teamjackson
Both sides will start bartering deals to gain however many votes they need and they will vote again
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:01 pm to PaperTiger
republican party is just not a serious governing party.it's the same way with the texas legislature.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:02 pm to PaperTiger
I hope they get nothing accomplished.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:02 pm to PaperTiger
quote:
Scalise should have taken it to the floor. Thats on him and the path he chose, and thats fine. You have to put people on record with a vote. Thats how you get so said vote changed.
Scalise was trying to spare even more disfunction and drama.
As someone who lives in his district, I do wish he would have taken it to the floor and put everyone on record.
But I understand why he decided to take the high road.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:03 pm to OU Guy
So Jordan actually performed worse than expected.
Yeesh.
Yeesh.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:06 pm to texas tortilla
quote:
republican party is just not a serious governing party.it's the same way with the texas legislature
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:06 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
So Jordan actually performed worse than expected.
Yeesh.
I wouldn’t say that. Once it was known he lost the vote the rest continue to vote. Some likely said random names so they can get some pork thrown their way on revotes. Its pure politics.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
If Jordan can’t get elected, no one is next up. It will only continue to be worse results
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:08 pm to LSUAlum2001
Unlike Democrats, Republicans refuse to stick together. Even if not all Dems agree on every issue, they always vote like they do. Every time.
If AOC were up for speaker, 100% of Dems would vote for her, even if many didn't like her. Republicans just refuse to operate the way Dems do, which is why Dems constantly destroy them and get what they want.
If AOC were up for speaker, 100% of Dems would vote for her, even if many didn't like her. Republicans just refuse to operate the way Dems do, which is why Dems constantly destroy them and get what they want.
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