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re: House AND Senate overrides JBE's veto of bill preventing trans procedures for children

Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:49 pm to
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I didn't answer his question. To me, it was an absurd question.
Not remotely absurd, for someone who did not read the bill. Entirely reasonable, in fact. Exactly the sort of "unintended consequences" question that a reasonable person asks about legislation they have not seen.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:54 pm to
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Not remotely absurd


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To me, it was an absurd question.


To me. I don't see circumcision in the same realm as gender affirmation surgery. It was absurd in it's reach. Again, to me and my views.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53827 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:54 pm to
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but journalistic integrity demands that he adopt neutral language instead of siding with one side in what are touted as "news" stories.


They’re told now on certain topics specifically not to “both sides” them
Posted by gillian
Member since May 2017
304 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 6:05 pm to
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They’re told now on certain topics specifically not to “both sides” them


This kind of politicized "reporting" cannot occur without editorial action, so it would not be surprising that politicized journalism is more systematic than just the writing of Finn.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57299 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 6:07 pm to
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But I think the wind is finally out of his sails as his questions actually have answers within the bill if he'd bother to read


Fair.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57299 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 6:09 pm to
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I always find it entertaining to watch the downvotes and cheap shots, when someone asks for a link to the legislation that is being discussed


For sure. But to be fair, your whole deal on here is to illicit down votes. I get it. You want to be challenged intellectually. In this instance you were 100 percent correct. And also, I don’t even hate your deal. It makes for lively debate.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 6:16 pm to
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And also, I don’t even hate your deal. It makes for lively debate.


It makes for perfectly circular debate. It's not possible to argue his stances because there doesn't exist an answer to move him from his position. It's always reanswered with a question, sometimes just a reworded question. You can't argue morals to someone. It's either there or not.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 6:22 pm to
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There were about 56,000 births last year in Louisiana. On average, about 1 in 2,000 births are hermies. That means there were about 28 babies born hermaphrodites in Louisiana last year. How many of those had surgery on their genitals?


Hmmm… Wiki says 500 cases, 525 documented instances, presumably on earth. Sure about them numbers?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
58017 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 6:23 pm to
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Don't Say Gay bill


Fake news.
Posted by minister of truth
Somewhere new for 6-12 months
Member since May 2022
1877 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 6:25 pm to
Yep his stated rate is way too high
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 6:36 pm to
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Sure about them numbers?


Wild won't be returning to these discussions
Posted by Squirrelwhisperer
Newellton
Member since Jun 2023
163 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 6:47 pm to
Suck it JBE
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:02 pm to
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I don't see circumcision in the same realm as gender affirmation surgery. It was absurd in it's reach. Again, to me and my views.
It isn't remotely the same, but legislators write sloppy statutes all the time, covering things that no sane person would expect them to cover ... from pure sloppy draftsmanship.

It is ALWAYS entirely reasonable to ask to see the legislation. ALWAYS.

Fortunately, again, this bill is clean.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 7:05 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:12 pm to
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Richard Nelson (running for Gov) voted against the Don't Say Gay bill override.


Well Dick, when 2/3rds of your state is for something and you want to govern them, its just great that you exited early
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:15 pm to
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Does this include surgeries done to the genitals of babies born hermaphrodites?

When youre dumb, its best not to open your mouth and prove it

How exactly do you reassign a gender on someone that already has both?


:JeopardyTheme:
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:24 pm to
Fed Mills is such a little fig and JBE cock sucker.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:25 pm to
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How exactly do you reassign a gender on someone that already has both?


:JeopardyTheme:
It would depend entirely upon the language of the statute, which is WHY a sane person asks to SEE the statute.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125742 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:26 pm to
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The only reason it seems you want to believe this is some big problem in Louisiana is just because you're being told so. Is there really a problem here?


How many kids being chemically castrated would constitute a “big problem?”

30? 3,000? Ballpark it for us.
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:26 pm to
It’s not a culture war issue… it’s a common sense issue. What a dumb morherfricker voting against the override.
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:27 pm to
frick you, groomer bitch.
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