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re: Horowitz's Investigators question Steele Dossier author, find him credible

Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:31 pm to
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I thought he couldn’t prosecute because he can’t indict a sitting president? T


Nah, that's in Vol 2 with the obstruction crimes.

I recommend that if you don't want to read the report, just wait until Mueller testifies before you assert knowledge of the report.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:31 pm to
Acuurately stating that Devin Nunes sponsored the latest FISA re-up is a potshot?

No, I corrected a potshot

Sorry you're sore about Devvy
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90423 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:32 pm to
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with the obstruction crimes.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:32 pm to
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They will say anything to make themselves believe they werent willful rubes.


"If it's what you say it is, I love it... especially later on in the summer".
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90423 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:33 pm to
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"If it's what you say it is, I love it... especially later on in the summer".

Oh man boom!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47547 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:41 pm to
Oh baby! It's happening isnt it?!?!

Even juicy has come out of shameful hiatus to jump on board the Mueller testimony boner train! Im setting the dvr now.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:42 pm to
These morons forget that republicans gat to ask him questions too
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47547 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:44 pm to
It doesnt matter. He wont say anything new because hes already sais as much, and they will all go back to hardlegging the SDNY.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18910 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:44 pm to
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Someone called him a collusion truther and he had the nerve to ask for a link.


that's perfect
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157634 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:45 pm to
Nadler already said he's going to try to limit questions due to time.

They will try to drive their narrative and that's it. This isn't about truth. It's to muddy the waters to hurt trump.

They think we don't see right through it.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18584 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:47 pm to
Yum yum. Gots anymo of them anonymous sauces that never pan out?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47547 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:48 pm to
Right.

Look at the little soundbytes they scavenged off of the Mueller press conference. They lived off of that for weeks.

That's all they want. Muh Russia is a lot like RBG. They just need to keep it alive.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37461 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:13 pm to
I trust Politico as much as I trust the sources familiar with things in the WaPo. How many times were they found wanting in their accuracy?
Posted by Tractor Tug60
South Texas
Member since Apr 2018
3060 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:25 pm to
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Sorry to invade your safe space snowflake.

That’s rich coming from you. Irony, do you know the meaning? SMDH @ your ignorance.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3008 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:28 pm to
Innocent man won't submit to interview by prosecutor though. HE KNOWS HOROWITZ CAN NOT INDICT OR PROSECUTE.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:40 pm to
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But actually ordering Mueller to be fired (as outlined in Vol 2) is illegal.
1. No, it's not.

2. He didn't order McGhan to fire him. Mueller/Weissman purposely misinterpreted McGhan's testimony to only act like it did.

McGhan clarified that the report conveniently leaves out context around this statement. He said that everyone close to Trump was telling him that Mueller should not be the SC because they believed he has a conflict of interest. So his testimony of when Trump said, "IF Mueller has a conflict of interest, I want him gone. You need to fire him, Don.", is clearly in the context of "IF" there's a conflict of interest.

McGahn even said he didn't "refuse Trump's demand" out of defiance, he said that they all decided not to do it because of the "optics". McGahn even explained that if he had refused any Trump order out of defiance he would be fired. So the fact he wasn't fired is a clear indication that Trump was on board with the rationale for the decision.

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Then asking McGhan to create a false memo to file to cover up that crime is yet another crime.
The request wasn't to "create a false memo", you jackass. It was Trump simply telling McGahn he needed to correct the record and clarify that the order to fire Mueller was contingent on Mueller having a conflict of interest. And, that they all also later agreed not to do it, Trump included.

McGahn made this clear and yet Mueller and Weissman STILL omitted this very pertinent context surrounding this entire issue from the report. And not only omitted it, but then inferred that this may be construed as Obstruction when it's CLEARLY NOT when the surrounding context is included.

Which makes it very obvious that Mueller and Weissman are dishonest and purposely trying to manipulate a false inference.



And here's the biggest quagmire in the Left's bullshite narrative... How the hell would firing Mueller be obstruction anyways? Nothing would have changed. A new SC would have been appointed and the investigation would have continued seamlessly with zero difference.

It's the same shite with Comey. Firing the freaking MANAGER of an investigation doesn't stop/end/change/alter anything.

AND, knowing now that there was no conspiracy (collusion), Trump obviously knew he was innocent. So why the frick would he obstruct something he knew would result in no incriminating evidence found?

How is it remotely plausible to try to prevent someone from finding something that you knew didn't exist?

It isn't. Nobody is going to do that.

At worst, Trump was worried Mueller and Weissman would fabricate evidence and manufacture a crime. Which is essentially what has happened here. AND, there actually was an obnoxiously clear conflict of interest for Mueller and his entire Leftwing witch-hunting crew to even be on this case.

Anyone who is unwilling to admit that Mueller is absurdly biased against Trump, especially after that press conference where he buttfricked the concept of "Innocent until proven guilty", clearly to gift the Dems with a massive boon for their impeachment crusade, is as dishonest as the day is long.

And his testimony to the Nadler HIC is only going to do it again. That's it's entire purpose and everyone who isn't a dishonest piece of shite knows it.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74124 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:16 pm to
This aged very poorly


The IG report outright states Steele lied about what his sources said
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59178 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:19 pm to
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HailHailtoMichigan!


Nice find
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:20 pm to
TigerinDC:
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They used it for a Carter Page FISA. The part they used has been largely verified.

Holy shite
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:20 pm to
This is a bump of superior quality.
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