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re: Homeschooling and the New Administration

Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:33 am to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28613 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:33 am to
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the totalitarians will say that virtual is the answer.

The school district where I live in Texas just forced students who had a certain number of absences or were below a certain GPA to attend school on campus; no more virtual school for them.


This happens in our district when, for example, students go many days without logging in, have turned in only one or two of the 15 assignments due so far, and have about a 10% average. Keep in mind that I'm talking about 16-18 year olds though. They're old enough to log in at home every day without parental supervision. And the vast majority of parents don't bother to log in and see their kid's grades on even a weekly basis. Some do and are very diligent. Most do not.
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 9:36 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12907 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:33 am to
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This is great but I imagine universities are going to create a larger barrier to entry for homeschooled students. They're going to use every tool at their disposal to stamp out any wrong think.


No they will not and more options for home school students then ever are presenting themselves. In NC where I live once you are 16 you can attend the CC system for free until you graduate home school, which is whenever you deem it. So many homeschool students will attend local CC and get their associates degree. All the CCs in the state have articulation agreements with the UNC system. Meaning your child could transfer to UNC as a junior in college and never paid a dime for it to that point.

Universities, colleges, and community college could care less what route your child took to get to their campus. They get paid for butts in the seat and as long as your child meets the requirements to attend they will get in.
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 9:35 am
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28158 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:34 am to
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Plus parents can set the curriculum from a good assortment of already created curriculums available through various channels


Check those channels if you're worried. Thats one way for it to still be subverted
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
11386 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:48 am to
Yes, the universities will be forced to not recognize home schooled credits or lose federal funding. The flip side is COVID taught us that universities do not have a monopoly of higher learning. But if colleges rufuse to admit home schoolers, they will lose a lot of students, something they cannot afford to do.
Posted by ashleymeggan
Member since Jun 2019
143 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:52 am to
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Homeschooling is exploding over the country and for good reason.


Pandemic?
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 9:53 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125435 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:03 am to
More accurately, a response to not having legitimate education options for their child due to teacher’s unions and non-data-driven decisions with regards to Covid and the danger from and to children.
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:04 am to
I have a gut feeling homeschooling will be throttled under the new administration.

They'll claim it is evidence of privilege and use that as justification to put up massive barriers to entry, e.g. they'll "mark" homeschoolers so that participating in society will be difficult (they'll take away credentials, or only offer certain credentials needed to get jobs to those that come from the government-sanctioned public schooling system).
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23045 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:05 am to
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Pandemic?



It was exploding before the pandemic. It’s really a number of reasons why more so than just not liking what they teach in public schools. Efficiency, flexibility, one/one instruction to name a few.

The issue used to be “socialization” but many homeschool communities have filled that void in addition to extracurricular activities that all kids enjoy (sports, dancing, music, etc.)
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 10:09 am
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20670 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:06 am to
Taxpayers funding soaring into public education while the teaching 100% sucks. Great theft is soaring to even greater heights
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
12245 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:08 am to
Nobody is getting rid of homeschooling. Good lord
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:10 am to
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This is great but I imagine universities are going to create a larger barrier to entry for homeschooled students. They're going to use every tool at their disposal to stamp out any wrong think.


Then all the donors to the large Southern state schools have to band together, create new colleges, and vet the faculty. No Diversity and Inclusion bullshite, No Critical Race Theory, No Critical Social Justice Theory, none of that. The resources are there to do this if the will is there.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:12 am to
Kamala Harris went after parents for schooling their kids when she was DA of SF. Of course she’s going not only after home schools but private schools as well. Kamala is going to demonize both that they’re brainwashing kids and not giving them the quality education the public schools combine. Additionally I suspect if she is successful on destroying them that the teachers will encourage students to rat out their parents if their parents have issue with what they’re being taught, and then the teachers will “take care of the parents” for the kid.



But as for secular private schools that cost 30K or more a year, don’t worry, they’ll be fine.
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 10:22 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:15 am to
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The truth of the matter is that there are many, many liberals homeschooling these days. They blame the very school system they insisted on creating.


I find this unlikely, given about 85% of homeschooling parents cite religious reasons as one of their reasons for doing so and nearly all homeschool curriculum is designed by religious or politically conservative entities.

Parents should have every right to homeschool their kids, but it always has been and likely always will be an overwhelmingly conservative Christian movement.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:17 am to
The Democrats are certainly coming for homeschooling.

I believe it was a Harvard professor who compared it to child abuse last year?Universities are where they get most of their ideas.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37710 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:18 am to
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Parents should have every right to homeschool their kids, but it always has been and likely always will be an overwhelmingly conservative Christian movement.


Every homeschooler I’ve met has been from a non-religious household. The super religious folk tend to put their kids in really small religious private schools, not homeschool.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23045 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:19 am to
This is what I’ve read about Harris that concerns me and honestly it should concern every parent.

Homeschool is also a great option for parents of children with ADHD issues who would prefer not to medicate their kids (only way traditional schools would allow their attendance). Many kids have ADHD issues that are very manageable in a homeschool setting without medication. This also allows the kid to simply grow out of the issue as they mature.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:20 am to
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I have a gut feeling homeschooling will be throttled under the new administration.

They'll claim it is evidence of privilege and use that as justification to put up massive barriers to entry, e.g. they'll "mark" homeschoolers so that participating in society will be difficult (they'll take away credentials, or only offer certain credentials needed to get jobs to those that come from the government-sanctioned public schooling system).


I think people are underestimating how much they’re going to go after private and Catholic schools as well. They’re not part of the teacher’s unions and I think they’ll emphasize that religion needs to be separated from science, history, and education.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23045 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:23 am to
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I think people are underestimating how much they’re going to go after private and Catholic schools as well. They’re not part of the teacher’s unions and I think they’ll emphasize that religion needs to be separated from science, history, and education.



This; however, I think they will go after more along the lines of discrimination (Catholic schools typically require a contract that the teachers/staff follow Catholic teaching).
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:26 am to
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Every homeschooler I’ve met has been from a non-religious household.


All I’m saying is the statistics make this extremely unlikely. It’s like saying you know a whole bunch of Muslims and they’re all Caucasian. It’s possible, but they represent such a statistical outlier that it’s just very unlikely. And even if your experience is accurate, it is an outlier that doesn’t change the baseline data.

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The super religious folk tend to put their kids in really small religious private schools, not homeschool.


The overwhelming majority of “super religious” people can’t afford private school. Even Mormons, who have the highest average educational attainment and household income of any Christian demographic in the world, predominantly choose homeschool over private school. Private Christian schools in this country are largely populated by affluent families who are culturally religious at most. The truly devout tend to keep their kids at home if they don’t opt for public school.
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 11:14 am to
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I believe it was a Harvard professor who compared it to child abuse last year?Universities are where they get most of their ideas


Yes. It was the Harvard Law School leadership. They not only compared it to child abuse, but also insisted that children are property of the State and that the State grants parents the privilege to raise the child. They even had a big conference about it.

Corey DeAngelis covered it in-depth on Twitter.
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