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re: HL/Rasmussen Poll: Cheaper gas for dismantling Israel? 60% of young VOTERS said yes!

Posted on 9/29/26 at 4:24 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
141452 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 4:24 am to
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19% of young voters in the poll, not 60%
Incorrect.
60% of young voters. Only about 3% of older voters. The overall avg equals 19%.
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
2232 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 5:57 am to
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dismantling Israel and replacing it with a Palestinian-led nation.


All you have to do is stop giving Israel weapons and money. US is the only country supporting them.

The problem is that we would then witness another holocaust. Global support would swing to the Israelis, and the US would inevitably have to intervene with boots on the ground. This would destabilize the region and if you like $5 gas - start saving now for $10 gas.

The middle east war is one that cannot be won. Some very smart people have tried to solve it over the past 75 years and what we have now is the best they could do. Or I really should say HAD because Iran was a huge mistake, not recommended by global strategists. It was political decision motivated by the Israeli lobby. As Americans, our best interests would be finding a solution to mitigate those tensions asap.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2549 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 7:35 am to
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Correct. They know their time is running out.



It's a theory for why AIPAC and other Jewish/ Israeli billionaires have invested so much money into primarying out the likes of Massie while dumping money into the coffers of people like Randy Fine.

They know time is running out and Trump 2.0 is the time to act. Look at the people who are all MAGA now were antitrumpers in 2016. Coincidence that we now have a war with Iran? The threat from Iran was there for Trump 1.0 but no war. If Trump was so determined to stop Iran from having a nuclear weapon AND we've been at war for 47 years, why not strike in the first term when no second term was a guarantee?

What's sad to me is how the much younger generations support Massie and what he works for, while the older generation can only repeat MSM talking points.
Posted by themunch
in motion
Member since Jan 2007
72993 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 7:47 am to
My son has debt but is buying property, has a newer truck than his dad, did not go to college like his dad to accrue debt, and is doing well as an electrician.

He was born in 88

I know my great grands are having issues but I believe from early misdirecting them both in parental and schooling.
This post was edited on 9/29/26 at 7:49 am
Posted by themunch
in motion
Member since Jan 2007
72993 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 7:56 am to
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while the older generation can only repeat MSM talking points.


Not so fast Harry. Don't put this old man in there. We'll fight.

But some of my high school mates are freaking lost.
This post was edited on 9/29/26 at 7:58 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100912 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 8:09 am to
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It's a theory for why AIPAC and other Jewish/ Israeli billionaires have invested so much money into primarying out the likes of Massie while dumping money into the coffers of people like Randy Fine.

They know time is running out and Trump 2.0 is the time to act. Look at the people who are all MAGA now were antitrumpers in 2016. Coincidence that we now have a war with Iran? The threat from Iran was there for Trump 1.0 but no war. If Trump was so determined to stop Iran from having a nuclear weapon AND we've been at war for 47 years, why not strike in the first term when no second term was a guarantee?

What's sad to me is how the much younger generations support Massie and what he works for, while the older generation can only repeat MSM talking points.



What a giant turd rant this. Massholes are liberal.karens
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8680 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 8:20 am to
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I am 70 years old. I have no dog in these fights, because I am fine. But, I do have children and grandchildren that are struggling.


My 36 year old son has a good job and a home he owns and has taken at least 2 trips to Europe each year for the past 5 years

Seems like life choices may have hurt yours if they are struggling
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2549 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 8:49 am to
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What a giant turd rant this. Massholes are liberal.karens


I hope you get the rest you need after straining your intellectual might to type out that response.

In the meantime......

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71544 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 8:55 am to
I don’t care about the lives of anyone who isn’t an American citizen. I only care about my own life and the wellbeing of my country.. The safety and security of Israel isn’t worth $1 out of my wallet to me, and I’m actually on the Israeli side of that conflict!
This post was edited on 9/29/26 at 8:56 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100912 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 8:55 am to
Delicious melt. What a wall of stupid that was
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10788 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 9:01 am to
They are too stupid to see the big picture. They thought Trump was gonna fix all the damage Demorats did over night? Are they not paying attention to the trillions in fraud he has found and stopped? Did they forget about the billions we have spent fighting terrorism that Iran funded around the world thanks to Obama and Biden?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20166 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 9:04 am to
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They cannot afford a home.


bullshite.


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They cannot afford a new automobile.


bullshite.


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They get out of college owing hundreds of thousands of dollars.


That's their own fricking fault.


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They are struggling to feed their families.


bullshite.



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You can believe it or not, but these young people are pissed, and rightfully so.


They are but out of ignorance and zero willingness to be financially disciplined. Once again, another example of those that blame everyone and everything but themselves and their enablers.
Posted by Branson
Member since Dec 2023
509 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 9:04 am to
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offshoretrash



This guy gets it.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6186 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 9:04 am to
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60% of young voters. Only about 3% of older voters. The overall avg equals 19%.


Ask older voters if they would give up social security to protect Israel. Or Medicare. Or higher capital gain taxes. They wouldn’t.

People don’t vote against their wallet. Gas prices are more painful to young voters. Social entitlements are more important to older voters.

Level the question and you will get leveled responses.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
9081 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 9:10 am to
Wow a 2 for 1 special?
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
9081 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 9:13 am to
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This would destabilize the region

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The problem is that we would then witness another holocaust


So the same outcomes that supporting Israel has led to. Except we wouldn’t have to foot the bill
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5745 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 9:17 am to
Pretty soon politicians will wise up and re embrace imperialism.

Wait until you see polling results for questions like “do you support seizing Iranian oil to clear college loan debt”.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60749 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 9:18 am to
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It is difficult to support the status quo when you see no light at the end of the tunnel.

When you look in the tunnel these days all you see is a Hasidic Jewish man and a dirty old mattress
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20166 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 9:23 am to
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Except we wouldn’t have to foot the bill



Except that whole Islamic terrorists threat becomes even more focused Westward. Amazing how ignorant and short-sighted some of you are, like the whole Islamic caliphate goal stops if Israel ceases to exist.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
9081 posts
Posted on 9/29/26 at 9:27 am to
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Except that whole Islamic terrorists threat becomes even more focused Westward


I would say us supporting the killing of tens of thousands of Muslim civilians is more likely than anything to increase that threat.

You thinking bombing elementary school girls is making us safer from terrorism?
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