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re: HISTORY, DISCOVERIES & THEORIES: Ancient Antiquities / Timelines / Lost & Found

Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:17 pm to
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But Fort Morgan guarding the entry to Mobile Bay is star shaped:



So is Fort Jackson on the lower Mississippi.



Fort St. Phillip, which was across the river, is the one that has basically been reclaimed by the marsh.
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:18 pm to
Old Ft Toulouse is also star shaped and it's 250 miles from the coast.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:19 pm to
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Much of Florida itself is karst topography...meaning, basically, a giant coral reef that has morphed into limestone.




Florida and most of the Southeast a few miles from the coast is covered in red clay. A perfect source for making bricks.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:20 pm to
The only conspiracy here is early evidence of MIC lobbying.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:22 pm to
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The only conspiracy here is early evidence of MIC lobbying.


Oh, without a doubt. Whoever compared these things to modern day aircraft carriers probably said it best.

The funny thing is, Fort Jackson has batteries that were built as late as the WWI era.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:23 pm to
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Liberator


You people are fricking stupid. Do you actually believe the bullshite you post?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:23 pm to
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Whoever compared these things to modern day aircraft carriers probably said it best.


Posted by CaptEasy
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:23 pm to
Dude, if you read some books, you wouldn’t believe the kind of stuff they could do in 1846.

Transporting a bunch of bricks to an island isn’t that big of a feat for the time period.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:25 pm to
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Transporting a bunch of bricks to an island isn’t that big of a feat for the time period.


BUT IT WAS 1846!!????

Just repeat "1846???" a bunch of times and don't give any context as to why that was significant.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:26 pm to
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Fort Morgan guarding the entry to Mobile Bay is star shaped:

As is (roughly) Fort Gaines across the entrance to the bay on Dauphin Island:



It was when passing between these two forts in 1864 that Admiral Farragut famously said, "Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!" before taking Mobile.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:30 pm to
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It was when passing between these two forts in 1864 that Admiral Farragut famously said, "Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!" before taking Mobile.


Found it on google earth:

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:31 pm to
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Any theory on how 16 million bricks got transported to an artificial island in 1846? AND, a "Fort" engineered AND built on it?


Trips back and forth on ships with laborers, materials and tools
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:31 pm to
What did I just read?
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:35 pm to
Bricks were very easy to mass produce and move via water in large quantities in 1846. If these forts were built of two-ton blocks of un-mortared stone, then it would be more of a head-scratcher. The location is hugely important and matches the political necessities of the time. The United States was at war with Mexico, and the political situations in Cuba, the Bahamas, and Hispaniola were anything but stable. The U.S. feared European intervention or the conflict with Mexico escalating into a larger conflict (the U.S.’s relatively easy victory over Mexico was a huge surprise to both sides). There’s many similar forts from the period built in that basic shape from bricks. There’s nothing particularly mysterious about that.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:36 pm to
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Just repeat "1846???" a bunch of times and don't give any context as to why that was significant.


Of course! The US was completely and fully committed in the Mexican-American War so they obviously didn't have the time to invent these water-craft thingies much less 16 majillion bricks!

And you know what these "star bases" have in them? Chambers. That's right "star chambers"!

Think about that, sir!
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:37 pm to
I just noticed your sig line.

"If it was up to me, I'd rather have mean tweets and cheap gas any day.". Samson

Did he really say that?

It's a shame because, while I don't know about cheap tweets, mean gas is nothing to sneeze at.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:39 pm to
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Any theory on how 16 million bricks got transported to an artificial island in 1846? AND, a "Fort" engineered AND built on it?


Boat probably
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:40 pm to
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The U.S. feared European intervention


They had every right to be. The last Revolutionary War with Britain just ended in 1815 in New Orleans.

Then the Brits started cozying up with the Confederated South.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:42 pm to
France attempted to install a French Emperor over Mexico after the war.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:42 pm to
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I just noticed your sig line.

"If it was up to me, I'd rather have mean tweets and cheap gas any day.". Samson

Did he really say that?

It's a shame because, while I don't know about cheap tweets, mean gas is nothing to sneeze at.



This is who I'm quoting: LINK
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