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re: HISTORY, DISCOVERIES & THEORIES: Ancient Antiquities / Timelines / Lost & Found
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:50 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:50 pm to Y.A. Tittle
No idea.
The material Snafu is unfathomable to consider -- for good reason. But then how the actual plotting, logistics of building a foundation and infrastructure in the middle of Gulf Waters?
Again -- why commit all kinds of resources a sandbar "island" as a "Fort" that would be threatened by high winds, storms, and flooding -- on a daily basis? The Keys are a string of islands.
The material Snafu is unfathomable to consider -- for good reason. But then how the actual plotting, logistics of building a foundation and infrastructure in the middle of Gulf Waters?
Again -- why commit all kinds of resources a sandbar "island" as a "Fort" that would be threatened by high winds, storms, and flooding -- on a daily basis? The Keys are a string of islands.
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:51 pm to jmcwhrter
Ok -- not bad
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:52 pm to jmcwhrter
On top of that it was actually more useful for the ships that it could anchor there and patrol nearby than just its guns.
Think of it almost as an aircraft carrier with planes able to project power over the ocean.
Ships could harbor there and cover a much larger strategic area
Think of it almost as an aircraft carrier with planes able to project power over the ocean.
Ships could harbor there and cover a much larger strategic area
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:52 pm to Liberator
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So -- yeah, let's build a military fortress -- lets choose a quiet spot in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico. THEN let's defy all reason and sanity by hauling 16,000,000 bricks to a patch of land the size of your front lawn. No-brainer, right? (Was Atilla the Hun still alive then?)
IIRC dry tortugas was a haven for pirates before the fort was built. It was also built to deny foreign navies to have access to the area to concentrate their forces to invade. That is also why the US built Fort Massachusetts on ship island.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:52 pm to Liberator
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Again -- why commit all kinds of resources a sandbar "island" as a "Fort" that would be threatened by high winds, storms, and flooding -- on a daily basis?
It's still there, you realize?
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:52 pm to Liberator
Plenty of civil war era forts were built in remote barrier island type locations. Their purpose was to create a choke point for vessels coming into the area.
Prime example close to home is right off Grand isle across barataria pass.
Prime example close to home is right off Grand isle across barataria pass.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:54 pm to Liberator
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The material Snafu is unfathomable to consider -- for good reason. But then how the actual plotting, logistics of building a foundation and infrastructure in the middle of Gulf Waters?
You have yet to explain how this is an unfathomable logistical situation. It simply is not.
Is it a lot of bricks? Yes. Did it require many ships to do? Almost certainly yes. Neither of those things are unfathomable.
You have a very misguided belief that people just 150 years ago were completely incapable doing basic construction tasks. There are DOZENS AND DOZENS of forts that look just like this one. Almost all of them are on the coast, on coastal islands, or barrier islands/cays/reefs. That was their entire purpose.
A coastal defense fortification is neither coastal nor defensive if it isn't located adjacent to a shipping channel.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:55 pm to Liberator
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To what extent were you about to inspect the facility and "float" around? Restricted, organized tour?
Any "wow!" impressions"?
We just went wherever the hell we wanted to in and around the fort. Only place we didn't go into was where the 4 or so National Park workers lived in there. Walked around the top of the fort, inside the fort, around the moat, and snorkled.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:56 pm to Liberator
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The material Snafu is unfathomable to consider -- for good reason. But then how the actual plotting, logistics of building a foundation and infrastructure in the middle of Gulf Waters?
Aren't the Keys limestone?
(Here this actually explains the geology: LINK - although maybe they're in on it.)
It was probably easier to build on that than on some of the forts built along the Louisiana coast and even those on the lower Miss River - one of which has basically sunk completely into the earth.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:58 pm to hollywood23
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Only place we didn't go into was were the 4 or so National Park workers lived in there.
YOU SEE
That's where the entrance to the portal to Zanthar is.
STAY WOKE
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:59 pm to Fun Bunch
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YOU SEE
That's where the entrance to the portal to Zanthar is.
STAY WOKE
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:59 pm to Liberator
You conspiracy nuts trip me out. These things exist all over the South:
Not all of them are star-shaped, either:
And it's been well established that these structure were built by pre-Columbian indigenous peoples of very low technological ability.
Not all of them are star-shaped, either:
And it's been well established that these structure were built by pre-Columbian indigenous peoples of very low technological ability.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Aren't the Keys limestone?
Much of Florida itself is karst topography...meaning, basically, a giant coral reef that has morphed into limestone.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:10 pm to Fun Bunch
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You realize those bricks were transported over the course of many, many years, right?
30 years to be exact.
Not all in 1846. It was also never finished.
16 million? In only 30 years? By these... what do you call them? "Boats"??? AND WHO BUILT THOSE BOATS???????//
Didn't think anyone would ask that, did you?
We're onto you, Sleestak!
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:11 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Star forts are all over the world. I don’t think this is one though
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:13 pm to Liberator
What is the conspiracy behind Fort Jefferson?
And they are not all star shaped. Here is Fort Massachusetts on Ship Island:
Fort Macomb in Chef Pass in New Orleans:
But Fort Morgan guarding the entry to Mobile Bay is star shaped:
And they are not all star shaped. Here is Fort Massachusetts on Ship Island:
Fort Macomb in Chef Pass in New Orleans:
But Fort Morgan guarding the entry to Mobile Bay is star shaped:
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:15 pm to Bard
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:16 pm to Liberator
1. That thing must be solid to survive so many large hurricanes that go through there
2. It makes sense to build that in 1846 with no quick communications or satellites/radar/etc. that’s the entrance naval ships from Europe would use to get into the Gulf so having it out there for defense and spotting of enemy ships back then makes sense
2. It makes sense to build that in 1846 with no quick communications or satellites/radar/etc. that’s the entrance naval ships from Europe would use to get into the Gulf so having it out there for defense and spotting of enemy ships back then makes sense
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:16 pm to Fun Bunch
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nce this dude learns that Venice is manmade and how it was done he is going to freak the frick out
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:16 pm to Liberator
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Any theory on how 16 million bricks got transported to an artificial island in 1846? AND, a "Fort" engineered AND built on it?
Anyone?
Exactly. Now they're trying to push some preposterous theory about people with craft that -get this- FLOATS ON WATER!
You and I know the truth though because we know what really floats on water:
Lizard people!
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