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re: Historian Arthur Herman: “I’ve never seen so many citizens rooting for defeat in war”

Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
60992 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:40 pm to
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No one wants our troops to suffer a defeat… that’s silly


I agree, with an exception of about 10% of the anti-Trump radicals.

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Trump’s weakness allowed Israel to attack Iran… every other president took a hardline stance when Israel tried to pressure or persuade them into it…


Nah, previous presidents openly talked about and campaigned on taking out Iran’s theocracy. Then, they got in power and backtracked.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30159 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:41 pm to
Marxism/Socialism is a helluva a drug.

Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
624 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:44 pm to
You have leftists willing to die for illegal rapits so you best believe they want us to lose. They want absolute tyranny.
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
624 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:45 pm to
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Defeat? I'd settle for us not waging war on a sovereign nation every damned decade.

Better to be nuked by r a g heads I guess huh
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9898 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:49 pm to
Respectfully, Mr. Herman hopefully isn’t coming to his conclusions based on the X-verse or social media in general.

As ubiquitous as social media is nowadays, the most vocal and drama-driven look-at-me’s are still its primary content providers when it comes to regular everyday citizens.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3354 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:50 pm to
We already there is a vast portion of Americans who want to see America fall. Not realizing that all of their first world comforts would disappear along with it. I can understand people that migrated here to make money, but the vast swaths of Liberal American white women who cheer on their own destruction. It doesn't compute. They hate Donald Trump so much that they their country to fail.
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4215 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:51 pm to
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It's pretty low IQ to view every subject in the world as black/white, us versus them, you are 100% aligned with me or your are the ENEMY.

There are times when one’s stance must be black and white. This is one.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8866 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:51 pm to
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No one wants our troops to suffer a defeat

you're smoking crack if you honestly believe this. a HUGE percentage of Americans would love to see a mass US military casualty count to make Trump look bad.
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
1121 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:52 pm to
Nobody is rooting for it, we've known this would be suicidal for decades. Somehow Trump didn't.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6568 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:53 pm to
Different topic, same conclusion we need a national divorce or civil war is coming to America.
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
624 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:54 pm to
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Not realizing that all of their first world comforts would disappear along with it.


I think some portion of leftists do realize this and are willing to live on the street if it’s against Trump. The level of indoctrination is beyond cutting off nose to spite face. Again, we have seen some willing to literally die for their “cause”.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4911 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:54 pm to
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He is succeeding. Negative polling is being driven by relentless anti-Trump propaganda from virtually every media outlet.


it's just so unfair!!1!
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:54 pm to
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we've known this would be suicidal for decades


What is “this” that we’ve known would be suicidal for decades.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
28199 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:54 pm to
If he thinks that bad.. what what they do when they release 6 million Epstein files and people all of the sudden don't care about it anymore.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55283 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:56 pm to
Yep. I'd say that well over a third of our fellow Americans would love it if Iran could kill Trump and defeat the US war effort.

Maybe more than one third.

Normal people have no idea how far the people of the USA have been depraved and decomposed.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108972 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:56 pm to
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Let's go frick up North Korea and China after that. End this bullshite once and for all.


Are you retarded?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47102 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:58 pm to
Is he talking about Iran or America?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:58 pm to
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at the same time no wants our troops sorting out shite on Israel or anyone else behalf…


So you're saying WW1 and WW2 were a waste of time and money and lives? Hmmm, where would we be if we hadn't you think?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24872 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:00 pm to
Democrats would be high fiving and throwing parties if Iran managed to kill a significant number of Americans.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19864 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:00 pm to
The entire democratic party are communists.
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