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re: Hillary Clinton is afraid of losing total control and pushes for censorship

Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:50 am to
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:50 am to
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Hillary is terrible but what you quoted here isn't too bad

Child porn and threats of violence absolutely need to be monitored online

Taking phones out of schools would probably be a huge net positive


Cyber bullying, trafficking, enticing minors for hookups, the pedo rings, all kinds of stuff that they need to close down.
But I stand against creating new agencies to do it. And I don't trust the existing agencies that are most likely the ones to do it.
And there's the censorship/free speech issues there too.

Lose control. She said her main interest out loud.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18495 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:50 am to
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if they don’t moderate and monitor the content we lose total control and it’s not just the social and psychological effects


She says child porn and threats of violence.

2 things that are already illegal and the government can subpoena, investigate, and prosecute. The only role for Social media is to cooperate.

What she really means is “misinformation “. Since that’s largely out of reach of government.

She’s intentionally disguising her goal as righteous.

That’s where “control” becomes an issue with misinformation - not child porn.
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 8:56 am
Posted by TigerCat33
Member since Apr 2015
1294 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:50 am to
That’s what this is all about. Total control. If they could figure out a way to put total control into an express lane and have us all hemmed up like the Chinese or North Korea, we’d all be fricked tomorrow.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40887 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:51 am to
Where are all the cool and edgy moderates at? It's hilarious to watch those who've always claimed to rage against the machine suddenly become the machine.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13279 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:56 am to
Define “threats of violence.”

You do understand this is the same crew that called words violence, and wearing a red hat threatening, right?
Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
904 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:59 am to
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Hillary is terrible but what you quoted here isn't too bad

Child porn and threats of violence absolutely need to be monitored online

Taking phones out of schools would probably be a huge net positive

This is a ruse on her part.
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 9:00 am
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16377 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 9:07 am to
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Think about how horrific this statement is.

Well at least she isn't in any position of power like say the Supreme Court.

Oh wait...
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So my biggest concern is that your view has the First Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways in the most important time periods.
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
3252 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 9:29 am to
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Hillary Clinton is afraid of losing total control and pushes for censorship
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I will add in that kids without phones cannot call in emergencies, such as active shooters at the school.

Then put phones in all classrooms and in hallways. Also cameras in classrooms and hallways.

Phones in schools are doing way more harm than the number of emergencies.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:02 am to
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Then put phones in all classrooms and in hallways. Also cameras in classrooms and hallways.

Phones in schools are doing way more harm than the number of emergencies.


I'm in agreement. And I like and encourage this discussion.
While I really like the ideas of cameras, it would help Leo, pinpoint and see what's going on in emergency situations.
I know that there's areas and schools that would fight it. They don't want people to know what their blue haired teachers are doing, and what's going on.
So we'd need to make it so they have no choice in the matter.
Even just panic buttons, that tie to 911 or emergency centers, would be a good start.
Posted by Spawn
Berlin
Member since Oct 2006
7978 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:03 am to
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if they don’t moderate and monitor the content we lose total control


I must have been in a coma during the election where we voted to put her "in control".

FTB !
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:04 am to
Tasseo, I'll go back and edit my post. I was taking more about Dims not wanting to protect the kids in the schools.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:19 am to
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I disagree with the majority of what she is saying (and certainly her goals), but I’m not actually opposed to removing phones from schools.

Can’t be exposing all the Marxists in the schools.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8680 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:28 am to
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if they don’t moderate and monitor the content we lose total control a


If you filter away the rest of her word salad, this gets to the crux of the matter for the political elites.


It’s always about control. Their control.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14246 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:28 am to
The Democrats like King George III hate free speech because it challenges their control of power!

England still doesn’t have free speech and we will never again if the Democrats win this issue.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
4117 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:28 am to
Imagine what these "people" would do if we didn't have the 1st and 2nd amendments
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7087 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:30 am to
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but I’m not actually opposed to removing phones from schools.


Have to be OFF and remain in book bags all day at our schools. They police it, too.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16377 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:55 am to
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“I think there’s a very specific challenge for the legacy brands, like the New York Times and like the Wall Street Journal," Tucker said, adding "If you go back really not that long ago, as I say, we owned the news. We were the gatekeepers, and we very much owned the facts as well."

Wall St. Journal EIC Emma Tucker lamented this loss of control over 'the facts'
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35395 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:06 am to
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If they take down Elon, we are screwed. Hopefully, he is tied into the MIC enough that they leave him alone.

At this juncture in time, Starlink has surpassed or equalled the communication capabilities of the government, and NASA would be bent over a barrel without Musk. At least for the time being I believe he's too valuable to be considered disposable.

I'm sure they're just counting the days though, and seeking avenues to seize and any all technology and intellectual property they can from him. Elon might just be the most powerful and dangerous individual in America right now.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2085 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:10 am to
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So we'd need to add in ways for the students and faculty to still be able to contact emergency services.


Dumb phones. Phones that only work as actual phones. Only receive and take calls. Already seen some pushed to make this happen in my area. Hundred percent behind this.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3162 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:22 am to
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You do understand this is the same crew that called words violence, and wearing a red hat threatening, right?


Even the American flag triggers most of them.
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