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re: High achieving African immigrants have crowded out black Americans

Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:39 pm to
African immigrants are doing better than all immigrants on average. Even Asians.

As for the rest...this is the wrong place for me to comment.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19422 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:42 pm to
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It's not just rampant racism. It's the little things that you may not even notice


Dare we call it prejudice instead of racism?

I will treat a TPOS white guy and a TPOS black guy the same. They are both scumbags because of their personalities/actions/culture. But, I could be charged with a crime for treating one that way, but not the other.

MLK - It's about a person's character, not the color of his skin.

And yet, the "knighting" movement is focused solely on skin color. MLK is turning in his grave by how the so-called followers of his incredible movement are carrying that flame today.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15315 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:53 pm to
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Dare we call it prejudice instead of racism


Calling it prejudice doesn't make it any less bad

quote:

I will treat a TPOS white guy and a TPOS black guy the same. They are both scumbags because of their personalities/actions/culture. But, I could be charged with a crime for treating one that way, but not the other.


How about you just try treating everybody equal then

Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19422 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:56 pm to
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How about you just try treating everybody equal then


What?

Why would I not judge a man based on the content of his character? It's the only thing that matters.

Sounds like you want scumbags to be treated the same as mother theresa
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76315 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:06 pm to
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Yeah, I assumed the other guy was a Spanish language speaker. Mulato is correct in Spanish, and in fact, is the original word (actually I believe the word is Portuguese in origin).

thx for giving me the benefit of the doubt. I'm just dumb though.
Posted by The Veldt
Member since May 2013
822 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:06 pm to
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High achieving African immigrants have crowded out black Americans
I think this is true for any other ethnicity or race.

Indian immigrants are very high achieving but two generations down, they have some screwed up Indian grand kids that don't resemble the high achieving grandparents.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15315 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Sounds like you want scumbags to be treated the same as mother theresa


Question: Do you know that these scumbags are indeed scumbags, or are you just basing that on an already preconceived idea of what a scumbag is
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2133 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:21 pm to
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It's not just rampant racism. It's the little things that you may not even notice


Is there any way you could cite some examples so I could know what to look for? I really want to understand and call out the fellow members of my race when they do this things.

Everyone speaks in generalities and never says "this thing" is what to look for.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15315 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:27 pm to
I mean just things like generalizing blacks as a whole. Im not saying you or the people you know do it. But it happens. For example, black people are easily the most incarcerated group of Americans. That is a MAJOR problem within itself. But another problem is that a lot of people tend to label ANY black person as a criminal automatically before they have a chance to know anything about the person
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:39 pm to
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For example, black people are easily the most incarcerated group of Americans. That is a MAJOR problem within itself. But another problem is that a lot of people tend to label ANY black person as a criminal automatically before they have a chance to know anything about the person


people rely on trends to make split decisions. You do it all the time, food, women, people, driving, etc.

It's almost like you want everyone to be "ignant foo". And yes, I first 48.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2133 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:56 pm to
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I mean just things like generalizing blacks as a whole. Im not saying you or the people you know do it. But it happens. For example, black people are easily the most incarcerated group of Americans. That is a MAJOR problem within itself. But another problem is that a lot of people tend to label ANY black person as a criminal automatically before they have a chance to know anything about the person


See that's the problem though. I hear Folks talk about the prevalence of racism and no one can site specific examples.

Something like this would work, a large group of white kids tried to drown me in the wave pool at blue bayou.

BTW that actually happened to me but it was a group of black kids. I can only assume it was because I was white. I had never seen them before and we didn't exchange a word.

To me when people proclaim racism and can't even site an instance much less one as compelling as mine I have a tendency to be less than sympathetic.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 5:22 pm
Posted by yumahog
Independence, Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
803 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:20 pm to
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Obama is a BLACK Kenyan-WHITE American.


No he is not, he's an arsehole. Good Day
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67920 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:25 pm to
It's not race.

It's culture.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15315 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:26 pm to
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BTW that actually happened to me but it was a group of black kids. I can only assume it was because I was white. I had never seen them before and we didn't exchange a word. 

To me when people proclaim racism and can't even site an instance much less one as compelling as mine I have a tendency to be less than sympathetic.


So, are you of the opinion that white people are all 100% and only black people are racist? I'm just trying to get an understanding
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2133 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:10 am to
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So, are you of the opinion that white people are all 100% and only black people are racist? I'm just trying to get an understanding


Absolutely not. I just gave you a personal example of what it means to be treated in a different or hostile manner because of race.

I asked you to do the same thing from personal experience and you mentioned the prison system.

I truly want to understand who is putting up the barrier and how it has affected you personally.

I have asked this question before in other places many times and get the same generalities that you gave. Things like, "It's systemic" and "lack of opportunities" and stuff like that.

Tell me how racism has directly affected you in a real and tangible way or tell me what you have witnessed.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45126 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:14 am to
The only African Americans are African immigrants who become American citizens.
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