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Hidden Behind Climate Policies, Data From Nonexistent Temperature Stations
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:24 am
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:24 am
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President Joe Biden called the climate “an existential threat” in his 2023 State of the Union address. “Let’s face reality. The climate crisis doesn’t care if you’re in a red or a blue state.”
In his 2024 address he said, “I don’t think any of you think there’s no longer a climate crisis. At least, I hope you don’t.”
When recalling past temperatures to make comparisons to the present, and, more importantly, inform future climate policy, officials such as Mr. Guterres and President Biden rely in part on temperature readings from the United States Historical Climatology Network (USHCN).
The network was established to provide an “accurate, unbiased, up-to-date historical climate record for the United States,” NOAA states, and it has recorded more than 100 years of daily maximum and minimum temperatures from stations across the United States.
The problem, say experts, is that an increasing number of USHCN’s stations don’t exist anymore.
“They are physically gone—but still report data—like magic,” said Lt. Col. John Shewchuk, a certified consulting meteorologist.
“NOAA fabricates temperature data for more than 30 percent of the 1,218 USHCN reporting stations that no longer exist.”
He calls them “ghost” stations.
Mr. Shewchuck said USHCN stations reached a maximum of 1,218 stations in 1957, but after 1990 the number of active stations began declining due to aging equipment and personnel retirements.
NOAA still records data from these ghost stations by taking the temperature readings from surrounding stations, and recording their average for the ghost station, followed by an “E,” for estimate.
President Joe Biden called the climate “an existential threat” in his 2023 State of the Union address. “Let’s face reality. The climate crisis doesn’t care if you’re in a red or a blue state.”
In his 2024 address he said, “I don’t think any of you think there’s no longer a climate crisis. At least, I hope you don’t.”
When recalling past temperatures to make comparisons to the present, and, more importantly, inform future climate policy, officials such as Mr. Guterres and President Biden rely in part on temperature readings from the United States Historical Climatology Network (USHCN).
The network was established to provide an “accurate, unbiased, up-to-date historical climate record for the United States,” NOAA states, and it has recorded more than 100 years of daily maximum and minimum temperatures from stations across the United States.
The problem, say experts, is that an increasing number of USHCN’s stations don’t exist anymore.
“They are physically gone—but still report data—like magic,” said Lt. Col. John Shewchuk, a certified consulting meteorologist.
“NOAA fabricates temperature data for more than 30 percent of the 1,218 USHCN reporting stations that no longer exist.”
He calls them “ghost” stations.
Mr. Shewchuck said USHCN stations reached a maximum of 1,218 stations in 1957, but after 1990 the number of active stations began declining due to aging equipment and personnel retirements.
NOAA still records data from these ghost stations by taking the temperature readings from surrounding stations, and recording their average for the ghost station, followed by an “E,” for estimate.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:27 am to Placekicker
So they are basically only getting readings from cities where the amount of concrete makes it hotter?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:36 am to Placekicker
Imagine believing that we can measure the temperature of the entire 200 million square miles of planet with themometers.
That's not a thing.
That's not a thing.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:36 am to loogaroo
And wide open airports in the middle of concrete & asphalt.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:36 am to loogaroo
quote:
So they are basically only getting readings from cities where the amount of concrete makes it hotter?
Yes.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:41 am to Placekicker
To rely on just a handful of stations covering a state as large and diverse as say California, extrapolating that to cover the state and even pretend it is remotely accurate is ludicrous on its face.
Of course, the "urban heat island" effect is the gorilla in the room, but there are so many flaws in the methodology and the gaslighting directed as skeptics are all reasons to amp up questioning it.
"The science is settled" is a statement of quasi-religious dogma - not actual science.
Of course, the "urban heat island" effect is the gorilla in the room, but there are so many flaws in the methodology and the gaslighting directed as skeptics are all reasons to amp up questioning it.
"The science is settled" is a statement of quasi-religious dogma - not actual science.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 6:42 am
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:46 am to loogaroo
quote:
So they are basically only getting readings from cities where the amount of concrete makes it hotter?
They are manipulating whatever data they can in order to support their narrative... The environmental whackos have never cared about numbers being accurate or if their proposed rules and regulations will make a difference...
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:06 am to loogaroo
quote:So what if it’s getting warmer.
So they are basically only getting readings from cities where the amount of concrete makes it hotter?
It’s supposed to warm up after an ice age, and we had one very recently.
Ask a climate crazy what will happen when the planet gets 25-30 degrees warmer on average than now. When they stop screaming point out it’s been that way for hundreds of millions of years in the past
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:21 am to Placekicker
"Ghost Stations" Nothing is real anymore. Our Government lies to us every day.
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SCAM #3. GLOBAL WARMING
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Covid #1
Ukraine #2
SCAM #3. GLOBAL WARMING
Climate Change #4
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:25 am to loogaroo
quote:
So they are basically only getting readings from cities where the amount of concrete makes it hotte
AKA - Manipulating to get the result you want.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:10 am to Great Plains Drifter
Tarzana is not going to like this thread.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:18 am to llfshoals
quote:
supposed to warm up after an ice age, and we had one very recently.
that's been my standard answer for over 50 years of this nonsense = there is only one way to recover from an ice age - and that is to warm it up.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:22 am to Placekicker
There never has been any climate crisis.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:24 am to Placekicker
quote:
100 years of daily maximum and minimum temperatures
Even if accurate, this is a fricking joke for a planet that’s 4 billion years old.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:29 am to Placekicker
There is only one simple question to ask.
"What is the optimal temperature for the planet?"
Without the answer to that question, we can't know if warming is good or bad. Hell, we might be headed in the right direction.
"What is the optimal temperature for the planet?"
Without the answer to that question, we can't know if warming is good or bad. Hell, we might be headed in the right direction.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:22 am to Placekicker
Imagine believing that the people that can't solve World Hunger will fix the Earth's temperature. ??
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:29 am to Placekicker
Not to mention ignoring temperature increases around solar farms.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:53 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:60 years ago they were talking about global cooling and a possible ice age
that's been my standard answer for over 50 years of this nonsense = there is only one way to recover from an ice age - and that is to warm it up.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:13 am to Placekicker
There used to be a website dedicated to documenting the weather stations used to report temps around the world, with pictures of each station being reported on.
Dozens of stations with incandescent light bulbs hanging in the small enclosure, creating heat. Stations sitting over asphalt. Stations sitting in the exhaust of HVAC units. Just about anything you can imagine. It’s a scam.
Dozens of stations with incandescent light bulbs hanging in the small enclosure, creating heat. Stations sitting over asphalt. Stations sitting in the exhaust of HVAC units. Just about anything you can imagine. It’s a scam.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:22 am to Placekicker
Climate scientist do not rely on properties of matter to calculate temperature change due to changing atmospheric gas concentrations. They rely on temperature data.
Engineers and physicists rely on properties of matter to calculate and forecast temperatures base on changing atmospheric gas concentrations.
Data can be massaged and molded to meet a particular narrative. Properties of matter cannot.
Climate change propagandists rarely hire engineers and physicists to forecast temperature change due to increasing CO2 levels in the atmosphere. Climate change propagandists do not like the results of said calculations.
Long story short, climate change narrative as sold by Joe Biden and the people that surround him is bull shite.
Engineers and physicists rely on properties of matter to calculate and forecast temperatures base on changing atmospheric gas concentrations.
Data can be massaged and molded to meet a particular narrative. Properties of matter cannot.
Climate change propagandists rarely hire engineers and physicists to forecast temperature change due to increasing CO2 levels in the atmosphere. Climate change propagandists do not like the results of said calculations.
Long story short, climate change narrative as sold by Joe Biden and the people that surround him is bull shite.
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