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re: Here’s the iPhone. Here’s the iPhone With Tariffs.

Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:46 pm to
It's all BS hypotheticals.

I bet the Peoples Bank of China prints and reduces the value of their currency which in turn strengthens the dollar and the net effect on tariffed Chinese imports is almost nil.

If history repeats itself, this is how China will respond.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56707 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:47 pm to
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while there have been criticisms and investigations into labor practices, child labor hasn’t been a substantiated claim directly tied to iPhone


so these places have child labor, but it can’t be confirmed they work on iPhones. Dems love abusing kids.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
12917 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:48 pm to
Correct. It's a sales tax on wholesalers. Which is actually amplified by the time it gets to consumers. Sales taxes on consumers are pass throughs. Sales taxes on wholsalers are marked up just like any other cost.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11384 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:49 pm to
I’m thinking that’s some bad math where they’re summing up the most aggressively bad tariff scenario for each component or raw material. My hunch is an iPhone 16 Pro would clear 5K in the US but not 50k. The Chinese tariff implications I saw on a 16 Pro was saying 3.6K. Going to be hard to beat Chinese prices when we have labor protections that are something more than just suicide nets on the factory.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:49 pm to
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This board is weird, MAGA seems to want these jobs back in Tennessee at $15 an hour, but not in Michigan at $30 an hour.


Cell phone manufacturing is not robotically automated?

I asked grok this question and grok said most cell phone production is automated except for the following:

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Manual Dexterity: Tasks like aligning delicate components, attaching flexible cables, or installing screens often require human precision and adaptability that robots struggle to replicate cost-effectively.

Quality Control: Humans inspect finished phones for cosmetic flaws (e.g., scratches) or functional issues that automated systems might miss.

Complex Assembly: High-end phones like iPhones have intricate designs (e.g., hundreds of tiny screws or connectors), and while robots handle some steps, humans often complete the process.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465792 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:50 pm to
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Liberals HATE it when you point this out.

No. Liberals were the original group using this emotional argument

MAGA has just adopted Liberal stances and talking points

muh sweatshops
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 2:50 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13700 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:51 pm to
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CollegeFBRules

Day 5 of your tariff melt? Color me impressed.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66543 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:52 pm to
Well, that's another issue. If they're not actually going to employ people to make these things, who cares? BuckyCheese has made the point for tax revenue, so there's that. And I guess you need people to set up the factory.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:53 pm to
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Well, that's another issue. If they're not actually going to employ people to make these things, who cares? BuckyCheese has made the point for tax revenue, so there's that. And I guess you need people to set up the factory.


Sure. I'm all for robots. We need a lot of people to program and troubleshoot them too.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:55 pm to
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Well, that's another issue. If they're not actually going to employ people to make these things, who cares? BuckyCheese has made the point for tax revenue, so there's that. And I guess you need people to set up the factory.


In the next ten years more and more industrial production is going to be automated with robots and AI. I feel getting as much of that business based in this country as possible is not only a good idea, but necessary considering where our deficit is currently.

Attacking the deficit will take more than one angle.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22514 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:56 pm to
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This stuff is not coming home.


If China goes to war with some country in the Pacific or with us, Apple will re-patriate. Might as well be planning for it. It's a different world now.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21252 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:01 pm to
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And the phone itself would likely cost more—a lot more



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Yep, a bajillion dollars. And maybe a magic wand.


Likely?????
A bajillion dollars? Wtf is that?? Lol

As with most things in life, nothing is ever as bad as it seems. 80% of the things we worry about never happen.
I'm confident that Apple has folks employed that could "figure it out" and make it happen, IF THEY HAD TO!
Folks should keep your fear mongering to urself.
Same pussies promising Trump couldn't win cuz of the big bad Dems cheating. Geez
Posted by David Fellows
Chicago but Georgia on my mind
Member since Mar 2024
1578 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:02 pm to
You seem very concerned.

Very VERY concerned.

Mega-concerny.

So, so SO MUCH concern.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5663 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:03 pm to
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I bet the Peoples Bank of China prints and reduces the value of their currency which in turn strengthens the dollar and the net effect on tariffed Chinese imports is almost nil.



Not with a 54% tariff.
Posted by David Fellows
Chicago but Georgia on my mind
Member since Mar 2024
1578 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:03 pm to
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Day 5 of your tariff melt? Color me impressed.


He just wants what's right for America. A true patriot.

Posted by dantes69
Boise, Id.
Member since Aug 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:05 pm to
sry, I hate apple products, will never own one no matter the price.

next
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7040 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:09 pm to
The thinly veiled racism of the Democrats.

"We need the slaves to pick our cotton."

"Blacks aren't capable of getting ids."

"We need the immigrants to pick the fruit."

"We need the cheap foreign labor so our i-phones wont be too expensive."

Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18888 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:10 pm to
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You seem very concerned.

Very VERY concerned.

Mega-concerny.

So, so SO MUCH concern.


All of which is noted of course.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62599 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:11 pm to
Oh no. How will anyone ever own a phone if we don't have iPhones?

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21315 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:14 pm to
This is stupid. Apple already started making iphone CPUs in USA 2024: LINK

They were already in the process of vastly increasing their american made supply chain starting back in 2022: LINK

It is all fear porn about iphone prices and tariffs.


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