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re: Have you ever wondered why young poor people rarely leave for somewhere else?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:07 pm to Revelator
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:07 pm to Revelator
No I haven't. I understand what you are saying, but how do you think that would work?
Middle class people don't just move for the fun of it. They need a job in the place they are moving.
How much harder is it for a young poor person to move? Sure even if they could afford a bus ticket, what about when they get there? Maybe they could get a low wage job in the new town. Is that really a huge improvement that is worth the risk?
NOW if they were moving to a boomtown (like a fracking batch, or where a lot of construction was happening) and there were decent jobs for people without college degrees...then it could make sense.
Middle class people don't just move for the fun of it. They need a job in the place they are moving.
How much harder is it for a young poor person to move? Sure even if they could afford a bus ticket, what about when they get there? Maybe they could get a low wage job in the new town. Is that really a huge improvement that is worth the risk?
NOW if they were moving to a boomtown (like a fracking batch, or where a lot of construction was happening) and there were decent jobs for people without college degrees...then it could make sense.
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Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:11 pm to BigJim
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How much harder is it for a young poor person to move? Sure even if they could afford a bus ticket, what about when they get there? Maybe they could get a low wage job in the new town. Is that really a huge improvement that is worth the risk?
If the town is scenic and low in crime, to me, yes.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:31 pm to Revelator
Probably never really that simple? Girlfriend/baby/ probation officer/drug dealer,all holding you back. If you leave,who is going to front you your shite?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:34 pm to Revelator
It’s all about someone’s drive in life and addictions . Poor people are less likely to push their kids to become something in life because they don’t have any drive their self .
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:43 pm to Revelator
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My dad has only been to two other states besides Louisiana and has no desire to do so. I don't understand this.
Not only should people visit as many different places as possible, they should live somewhere they didn't grow up for at least 5 years at some point.
I'm lucky enough that my daughter not only got in to every school she applied to, she also got acedemic scholarships as well.
I told her I didn't care which school she chose as long as it's not in a state we've lived in before.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:56 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:They should? I've lived all over this country and a few others and wouldn't presume to tell others what they should do. The grass is not always greener.
Not only should people visit as many different places as possible, they should live somewhere they didn't grow up for at least 5 years at some point.
As to the original point of staying put when you're poor and outlook sucks, there's obviously not one single reason, but lots of people simply fear the unknown and prefer the devil they know.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:58 pm to Revelator
quote:Better t' dance wit th' one who brung ya
Sure, their financial situation might not change if they moved, but the scenery could.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:00 pm to NC_Tigah
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Better t' dance wit th' one who brung ya
No matter where you go...well..there you are.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:12 pm to BigJim
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Middle class people don't just move for the fun of it. They need a job in the place they are moving.
More often than you think
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How much harder is it for a young poor person to move? Sure even if they could afford a bus ticket, what about when they get there? Maybe they could get a low wage job in the new town. Is that really a huge improvement that is worth the risk
Probably a lot easier. Less baggage, stuff to get rid of
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:24 pm to lsufanz
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They should? I've lived all over this country and a few others and wouldn't presume to tell others what they should do. The grass is not always greener.
I see it like this too: There is no place in this country without opportunity. If you can't concentrate on making the most of it,in the place that you know best,how can you expect to do it,in a place that you don't even know?
You are probably better off to stay where you are.
Leaving home isn't going to automatically transform you.
Going out and seeking new opportunities works for some people,but they are usually the types that already do fine anywhere.
You either have that will inside of you,or you don't.
Maybe though,there are people that don't know themselves until they lose all of their safety nets.
Then they will do what comes naturally.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:45 pm to PsychTiger
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I'm down with donating bus tickets to take them all to California.
Who's with me?
Sign me up towards donating for bus tickets to Hawaii.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 7:34 pm to Revelator
If they had that much initiative they wouldn't be/stay poor.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 8:11 pm to auggie
I grew up relatively poor. Many people in the South did. Mom put patches on my toughskin jeans when they ripped, sewed up the holes in my shirts, we ate liver cheese sandwiches and chef boyardee pizza.
I'm guessing the people who think it's hard to escape poverty have never been poor.
I'm guessing the people who think it's hard to escape poverty have never been poor.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 8:16 pm to lsufanz
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The grass is not always greener.
Agreed, but even if the only thing you learn from living elsewhere is that you're better off living where you grew up, that's still a lesson worth learning.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 8:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm guessing the people who think it's hard to escape poverty have never been poor.
I was never that poor Roger,but I knew people who were.
It was real poverty,not like what we see today,that they are calling poverty.
I watched those same people work hard,and pull themselves up and out of it.
1 family in particular that I have known all of my life. When I was a kid,they were the poorest of the poor.
Now though,you would never guess how bad they had it,back in the day.And they didn't go off and do anything crazy,or try some new place,they just worked hard.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 8:23 pm to Revelator
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Why die looking at dirty city streets when you can die looking at mountains?
I see mountains every day now but definitely miss da bayou.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 8:36 pm to Revelator
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The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.
Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.
But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 8:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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chef boyardee pizza
You talking about the pizza kits?
That shite was off the hook!
My mom sewed patches on my double knee toughskins too.
Mushrooms and rainbows and shite.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:09 pm to Revelator
Look up my old thread. Round up all the homeless in the major cities, tag them, and dump them in the Dakotas/Idaho/Wyoming/Puerto RICO/Hawaii. Rent is dirt cheap out there and they can get manual labor jobs.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:43 pm to TigerBait1971
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chef boyardee pizza
You talking about the pizza kits?
Yep. That stuff at least once a week got old...didn't do far with three boys either
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