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Have We Discussed the COVID Surge in England?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:35 am
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:35 am
Case Count Approaches New High
86% of 12 and Up Have at Least One Dose
Why are we still doing this?
86% of 12 and Up Have at Least One Dose
quote:
So far, more than 49 million people have had a first vaccine dose - about 86% of over-12s. More than 45 million - about 79% of over-12s - have had both doses.
Why are we still doing this?
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:35 am to Aubie Spr96
Is that the Delta Plus variant that was mentioned?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:36 am to Aubie Spr96
Is this delta plus?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:36 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:
Why are we still doing this?
Conditioning
Should be Idiocracy by Christmas 2022
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:37 am to The Maj
86%…..but Hiden told me that if we all get the vaccine then it would get better?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:43 am to Aubie Spr96
It doesn’t matter if they ain’t dying at the same rate as before. Case counts don’t matter.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:44 am to tiger91
quote:
Is that the Delta Plus variant that was mentioned?
I believe that’s what was being blamed. Perhaps the vaccine is putting evolutionary pressure on the virus to mutate into more virulent forms?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:45 am to Aubie Spr96
Sheep, they all are!
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:45 am to Aubie Spr96
“It’s those unvaccinated Trump supporters who are spreading it in the UK!!! The unvaccinated are killing us!!!”
- Evil, filthy, mindless leftists
- Evil, filthy, mindless leftists
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:48 am to tiger91
The same Delta Plus that passed through the UK 6 months ago?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:52 am to Aubie Spr96
Have you looked at their death numbers?
Their positive tests are significantly up, their deaths are not up. They are flat which shows the efficacy of the vaccine to prevent death.
UK Covid Cases and Deaths
Their positive tests are significantly up, their deaths are not up. They are flat which shows the efficacy of the vaccine to prevent death.
UK Covid Cases and Deaths
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/20/21 at 11:54 am to tigger42day
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Their positive tests are significantly up, their deaths are not up. They are flat which shows the efficacy of the vaccine to prevent death.
Or perhaps the therapeutics have helped, the virus has become less deadly, and all the low hanging fruit is dead already?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:00 pm to Aubie Spr96
That’s definitely a factor, but using a case count on a mucosal RNA virus to infer the vaccine isn’t working is incorrect.
The deaths are not following the case numbers like they did in the previous surges and the primary difference is the prevalence of the vaccine.
The deaths are not following the case numbers like they did in the previous surges and the primary difference is the prevalence of the vaccine.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:02 pm to tigger42day
quote:Which is great for individuals who are more susceptible to hospitalization and death from COVID, but it doesn't speak to the ability to spread the virus, which is the primary reason for mandates right now.
Have you looked at their death numbers?
Their positive tests are significantly up, their deaths are not up. They are flat which shows the efficacy of the vaccine to prevent death.
UK Covid Cases and Deaths
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:18 pm to FooManChoo
No doubt. I didn’t mention, nor promote vaccine mandates.
They’re wrong, and if they push this on children, we will likely discover they killed more kids with the vaccine than from the virus. That’s not inferring the vaccine kills a lot of people, it’s just the virus simply doesn’t kill healthy kids.
But that doesn’t make the vaccine wrong. It is very helpful to protect people of all ages with preexisting conditions and the elderly from dying from this virus.
As to others, you’re better off living your life and dealing with the virus using your natural immunity.
They’re wrong, and if they push this on children, we will likely discover they killed more kids with the vaccine than from the virus. That’s not inferring the vaccine kills a lot of people, it’s just the virus simply doesn’t kill healthy kids.
But that doesn’t make the vaccine wrong. It is very helpful to protect people of all ages with preexisting conditions and the elderly from dying from this virus.
As to others, you’re better off living your life and dealing with the virus using your natural immunity.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:20 pm to tigger42day
CFR was about 3% last winter and if the NYT numbers are to be believed it's currently running about 0.2%.
A combination of factors is likely driving that...
prior exposure, resilience, mutation, vaccination, etc.
Anyone claiming it is one or another is merely spit balling.
A combination of factors is likely driving that...
prior exposure, resilience, mutation, vaccination, etc.
Anyone claiming it is one or another is merely spit balling.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:21 pm to Aubie Spr96
Delta + + Mu 
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:24 pm to Aubie Spr96
What is the per 100/k infection rate of Vaxed vs unvaxed?
Was it Israel a few weeks back that was showing the vaxed with a higher contamination?
Was it Israel a few weeks back that was showing the vaxed with a higher contamination?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:25 pm to Aubie Spr96
who give a shite? what is the hospitalization/death rate?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:27 pm to Aubie Spr96
Because they are vaccinating the majority of the population in the middle of a pandemic against only one antigen of a bug that evolves at ease.
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