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re: Have We Discussed the COVID Surge in England?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:33 pm to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:33 pm to Aubie Spr96
i guess so, they're back to full capacity at soccer games
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:34 pm to Jack Carter
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“It’s those unvaccinated Trump supporters who are spreading it in the UK!!! The unvaccinated are killing us!!!”
This is what I was coming to type as well…
Most definitely and clearly a direct result of unvaccinated Trump supporters in southern states, right?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:34 pm to Aubie Spr96
Cases tend to surge when it gets cooler in the area.
Why? People stay inside. Where you are more likely to be exposed to the virus.
Crazy I know...
Why? People stay inside. Where you are more likely to be exposed to the virus.
Crazy I know...
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:44 pm to tigger42day
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Their positive tests are significantly up, their deaths are not up. They are flat which shows the efficacy of the vaccine to prevent death.
Or it is just natural that variants are much less severe.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:48 pm to Aubie Spr96
And you're STILL believing the fake numbers??????
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:48 pm to Aubie Spr96
I made this prediction a couple of days ago.
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I think we'll see a surge within the next 3 months.
Why?
Efficacy from the injections seems to drop precipitously 3-6 months out. There weren't enough injections to start "vaccinating" en masse until April-May so we're just now getting to the 6-month point for those at the beginning of mass injections. If this all holds true, the next surge should be starting soon and it would primarily be breakthroughs.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:49 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Why are we still doing this?
Money
Posted on 10/20/21 at 12:51 pm to tigger42day
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They are flat which shows the efficacy of the vaccine to prevent death.
No, this does not show that the vaccine prevents death...
If anything it shows the natural progression of a virus, which in normal cases become less deadly as it evolves...
Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:04 pm to The Maj
That is possibly involved. With this new variant, the “lower virulence concept” is to be determined.
There are a lot of factors in play now that weren’t available during their previous surges in cases and deaths.
A lot of susceptible people are gone.
A lot of people have had the virus and recovered
A lot of their population has been vaccinated.
Therapeutics are now more available and their efficacy is better understood.
There are a lot of valid studies that show the vaccine lowers both hospitalization and death. I won’t waste my time arguing that, the numbers support that.
There are a lot of factors in play now that weren’t available during their previous surges in cases and deaths.
A lot of susceptible people are gone.
A lot of people have had the virus and recovered
A lot of their population has been vaccinated.
Therapeutics are now more available and their efficacy is better understood.
There are a lot of valid studies that show the vaccine lowers both hospitalization and death. I won’t waste my time arguing that, the numbers support that.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:07 pm to The Maj
95% prevent you from catching it to it you're less likely to die. Get back to me in 5 years when we sure the juice does not cause various autoimmune disorders etc.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:23 pm to cssamerican
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It doesn’t matter if they ain’t dying at the same rate as before. Case counts don’t matter.
I don't know if you've been following the Louisiana dashboard, but fully vaxxed death % has been outnumbering the fully vaxxed cases & hospitalizations since they've started posting it.
This was updated today. Fully vaccinated is 24% of deaths while hospitalizations have been steady at 17% for a while. The cases number has never been more that 17% fully vaccinated.
I don't have all of the weekly updates screenshotted, but here are a couple from September:
Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:27 pm to Aubie Spr96
Those who are vaccinated are more likely to harbor the virus, and spread the virus to others, whether the others are vaccinated or not. Natural immunity appears to kill Covid, immune response to the vaccine appears to allow Covid to remain long term (without symptoms) and spread.
Which reinforces the belief that young healthy people (who don’t need the vaccine) shouldn’t get it and become spreaders
LINK /
Which reinforces the belief that young healthy people (who don’t need the vaccine) shouldn’t get it and become spreaders
LINK /
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:54 pm to Aubie Spr96
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and all the low hanging fruit is dead already
It’s that, the people who were dying of Covid had exceeded normal life expectancy.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:31 pm to OccamsStubble
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Natural immunity appears to kill Covid,
Yep! Can’t have that though.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:58 pm to The Maj
I tell you what's gonna hurt is when that "Omega Moo" variant hits us..........those Moo's are no joke.
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