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Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:20 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Of course you will, it's why your are so masturbatory this morning.
I will take massive failure and a huge L for the admin
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:22 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:What was wrong with people making those responses?
Remember the "THEY WERE TOLD TO WAIT UNTIL WE STOP BOMBING" emotional responses?
They were in direct response to people sarcastically asking “why aren’t the Iranians out in the streets taking the country back literally right this very second?”
I contend those questions were much more retarded than the response. I can’t find a whole lot wrong with the response, tbo.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:22 am to SirWinston
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SirWinston
You already have 13 posts this morning and it’s only 5:22 Portland time
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:22 am to SlowFlowPro
No, there has not been regime change in Iran.
The clerics and the IRGC are still in control and rule the country.
We killed the ayatollah. But the regime has already named a new ayatollah, the son of the killed ayatollah.
Killing the ayatollah accomplished nothing but to piss off about 500M Muslims, many of which I'm willing to wager have vowed to avenge his death.
The clerics and the IRGC are still in control and rule the country.
We killed the ayatollah. But the regime has already named a new ayatollah, the son of the killed ayatollah.
Killing the ayatollah accomplished nothing but to piss off about 500M Muslims, many of which I'm willing to wager have vowed to avenge his death.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:24 am to SlowFlowPro
Don’t disagree with that. Where does the truth lie? Somewhere in between or completely opposite?
Maybe we should let it settle a bit and see who surfaces. They have someone or a collection of people who is acting as a replacement.
Maybe we should let it settle a bit and see who surfaces. They have someone or a collection of people who is acting as a replacement.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:24 am to LuckyTiger
quote:
piss off about 500M Muslims, many of which I'm willing to wager have vowed to avenge his death.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:25 am to LuckyTiger
quote:
Killing the ayatollah accomplished nothing but to piss off about 500M Muslims, many of which I'm willing to wager have vowed to avenge his death.
Wtf
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:25 am to Jbird
His son is “the leader” but severely wounded and hasn’t been seen
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:26 am to DeBoar
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His son is “the leader” but severely wounded and hasn’t been seen
His death is largely irrelevant. Will his replacement be from inside the regime or outside the regime?
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:26 am to Nole Man
quote:Am I supposed to believe this is a lot of money?
Regarding financial impact, initial Pentagon briefings estimated U.S. military expenditures at $11.3 billion during the first six days, while external assessments now place total direct costs at over $16–23 billion
I reject the idea that it is a meaningful amount of money based on how y’all and the left treats fraud in the country.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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Will his replacement be from inside the regime or outside the regime?
Outside
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:27 am to Mo Jeaux
Not hard. Is the former ayatollah alive?
No. So that regime is over. Have they chosen another?
No. So that regime is over. Have they chosen another?
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:27 am to LuckyTiger
It never occurs to some people that our bombing may actually have the opposite of the intended effect -- rallying the people around the regime against us. And that goes to my point about the protests -- it's like people on this board assume 90% of the population wants regime change. We have no way of knowing that. What if it was only 100,000 people out of 90 million? To quote journalist Caitlin Johnstone:
quote:
The regime change supporter’s favorite trick is to pretend the people in the targeted country are an ideological monolith. All Iranians hate their government, all Venezuelans wanted freedom from Maduro, etc. They do this constantly.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:29 am to canyon
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Have they chosen another?
Yes, but that’s beside the point. Your concept of the “regime” is problematic.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:30 am to SirWinston
quote:
Busy season mate
Saw your Alt got wacked, good job going hard during busy season.
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:30 am to Bunk Moreland
Yeah, we talked about that when this war first started and the goals were, of course, unclear. Unclear. Actual regime change doesn't mean that we would be able to just replace it and sectarian violence from competing factions. Trying to seize power is basically guaranteed in the Middle East.
Even if we put in some puppet government like people were proposing with the Shah's family, that doesn't mean that civil War and sectarian violence would not occur. Hell, with the fanatical regime like the one being replaced, it only requires a small percentage of the population to engage in terrorism to seize the country, and there's clearly enough support for the old regime to do this for a long time
Even if we put in some puppet government like people were proposing with the Shah's family, that doesn't mean that civil War and sectarian violence would not occur. Hell, with the fanatical regime like the one being replaced, it only requires a small percentage of the population to engage in terrorism to seize the country, and there's clearly enough support for the old regime to do this for a long time
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:31 am to Mo Jeaux
So what the hell is the point?
Ideology change is more important than regime change and that's not happening
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:32 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:(scare quotes should always induce cringes and eye rolls)
The thread is a relatively simple discussion asking if the change in leadership qualifies as "regime change"
quote:(here’s what’s typical, you stipulating terms only favorable to your argument as if they were gospel)
Typically "regime" means
quote:(dude, there’s literally a crossroad of history in this region that extends over 2,000 years and, yet again, you stipulate history as if you have scholarship in this specific area and as if it is a foundational truth - more cringe and eyeroll)
In Iran, historically the "Regime" is the system put in place after the 1979 Revolution
quote:(More framing opinion as fact, mixed in is some sort of prescient mind-reading that, again, I’m just supposed to accept as absolute)
When people talk about "regime change" in Iran, they are talking about
quote:(well then, that settles it because many people, right? How many? 3 or more? Which people are they?, etc. ad nauseam)
Hence, why many people
Your pecksniffian cant and disingenuous horse shite gets really insufferable.
But here’s an answer to your question that wrecks all your illegitimate stipulation:
Not even once has this administration documented the strategic goals of this military action to include regime change; not even once…
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