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Has New York overstepped it's authority?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:39 pm
Not a lawyer, but it seems to me that Judge Engoron, with his ruling and edicts, has violated ICC and FTC regulations and law.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 7:41 pm
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Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:40 pm to BFIV
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it seems to me that Judge Engoron, with his ruling and edicts has violated ICC and FTC regulations and law.
There probably is some law they broke doing what they did. I’d Trumps team can find it and make it stick - would be epic. Make them pay back plus damages.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:44 pm to BFIV
Uh, yeah. The long term economic implications of this ruling could devastate New York. But it doesn't matter because OMB. 
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:51 pm to BFIV
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has violated ICC and FTC regulations and law.
Why?
States have vast policing and regulatory authority within their state. They could remove the ability for people to form corporate entities, let alone regulate them.
States' rights and all that.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:52 pm to coolpapaboze
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The long term economic implications of this ruling could devastate New York
That's answering a different question than OP's
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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States' rights and all that.
Do you believe in States' rights or are you just being snarky?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:00 pm to deeprig9
I believe in states rights, but that doesn't mean that I have to believe that to be over regulatory and creating an unhealthy market is a good thing. However that's not what this threat is about because the op was specific about interference with federal law. This action falls squarely within state regulatory authority, whether we agree with the authority or how it was wielded or not
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:00 pm to BobBoucher
Trumps lawyers are incompetent. No attorney worth a shite will rep him anymore.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:01 pm to deeprig9
The blatant selective prosecution is potentially a huge issue.
There has to be issues involved when they went through his records to look for a crime rather than suspecting a crime and looking for that.
If trump can sue them for damages and win, he could own the state.
There has to be issues involved when they went through his records to look for a crime rather than suspecting a crime and looking for that.
If trump can sue them for damages and win, he could own the state.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:02 pm to thetempleowl
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There has to be issues involved when they went through his records to look for a crime rather than suspecting a crime and looking for that.
This was not a criminal proceeding
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why?
States have vast policing and regulatory authority within their state. They could remove the ability for people to form corporate entities, let alone regulate them.
States' rights and all that.
This is correct but the question is if the JUDGE has the unilateral authority to order everything he did
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:06 pm to BFIV
WHO IS THE AGGRIEVED PARTY?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:06 pm to HailToTheChiz
Trump was denied his constitutional right to a jury trial,even though it would have been a bought and paid for jury
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:09 pm to Bayoutigre
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Trump was denied his constitutional right to a jury trial
No he wasn't
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:16 pm to BFIV
Yes because they are attempting to harm the candidacy of an elected official that would have authority over all other 49 states. What would happen if some kangaroo count in Alabama started issuing judgements against popular Democrat politicians and trying to bankrupt them? This country wont function much longer when such perversion of the judicial system persists.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
What’s your understanding of the concept of “discretion?” More specifically, the concept of “prosecutorial discretion?” Strike that, the “obligation and duty” of prosecutorial discretion?? Stop and think about it, the sound, equitable, responsible exercise of prosecutorial discretion is perhaps more foundational than the laws themselves. Because the irresponsible, malicious, biased exercise of that obligation pretty much nullifies the other concept of equal protection under the law. Actually makes the law your enemy, in every instance.
Do you see what I’m getting at there, friend? One must try very hard to avoid or ignore the blatantly obvious, extreme malicious exercise of that critical discretion. Every single thing that flows from that point is wholly illegitimate, at best.
Do you see what I’m getting at there, friend? One must try very hard to avoid or ignore the blatantly obvious, extreme malicious exercise of that critical discretion. Every single thing that flows from that point is wholly illegitimate, at best.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why? States have vast policing and regulatory authority within their state. They could remove the ability for people to form corporate entities, let alone regulate them. States' rights and all that.
Thats fine if NY wants to play this game with their own elected officials. It becomes an issue when their corruption affects me when I have no say in the election and appointment of their judges.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:21 pm to davyjones
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More specifically, the concept of “prosecutorial discretion?”
This wasn't a prosecution.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:22 pm to scottydoesntknow
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It becomes an issue when their corruption affects me when I have no say in the election and appointment of their judges.
How does this civil-regulatory decision affect you personally?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:25 pm to ronricks
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Trumps lawyers are incompetent. No attorney worth a shite will rep him anymore.
Juvenile take. Even if this were true, it doesnt justify a perversion of justice
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