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re: Harris keeps moving up in polling

Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31145 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:23 pm to
She is not growing. They make up polls like this to make it believable when she gets 83 million fake votes. People like you spreading the propoganda only helps them build their cover story.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
14082 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:23 pm to

quote:

this is scaring me.


It should scare the shite out of you.

Americans no longer have a voice in who is running the country. You get who they give you and they don't care if you like it or not.

The United States of America is no more.

Kamala will be the next president and maybe the last American president. I figure they will think, lol if we can put these last two imbeciles in the white house then there really isn't any need for us to pretend anymore that the office of president is necessary.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11267 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:27 pm to
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But they are having to AI generate photos for her.


Do you actually believe this or are you just parroting the current GOP lies?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
77046 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:27 pm to

After all of the garbage that the media has served up for the last 8+ years, is it any wonder that they have zero credibility?

There is no reason to assign them any.

They have to earn it back, and that will likely take years.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
31186 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:28 pm to
So why is the Washington Post poll gospel but any poll showing Harris ahead not trustworthy?

Everyone laughed when she replaced Biden saying how easy of a win this will be.

538 has her up in every swing state and nationally.

Also,

quote:

Much of the latest New York Times/Siena College poll (Aug 11) was conducted as Walz joined Harris on the campaign trail and shows the vice president with a four-point lead in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, a substantial shift from Biden’s trajectory in the swing states.

Yet another YouGov/CBS poll from one week earlier (up to August 2) suggested that neither Trump nor Harris had a significant lead in any of the battleground states, with the two candidates in an overall deadlock.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
80852 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:29 pm to
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It's called the honeymoon effect. Do you not remember that Harris, Beto, and several others were the favored in the polls for a month right after they announced they were running in 2019? Plus she will soon get post-convention bump. If she is still ahead of Trump by greater than the MOE I will start to worry. However, the thought of Harris as POTUS scares the shite out of me.


You've touched on the part that is the key to why she's a bad candidate. Once the post-convention blue-phoria ends, the people "in the middle" who decide elections are going to be faced with the key question left:

Do I want or trust this mystery woman running the country?

Trump may be many things but he's no mystery. His four years in the White House sans the COVID mess that took it form him were not radical or extreme to non-partisans, no matter the gaslighting.

Meanwhile, all we have on Harris is that she's an unproven "follow the leader Socialist" who will only lose voter confidence every time she opens her mouth off-script.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282854 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:30 pm to
their strategy is to let Trump attack her and gain sympathy votes.

I have no doubt this strategy can work.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:30 pm to
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After all of the garbage that the media has served up for the last 8+ years, is it any wonder that they have zero credibility?

There is no reason to assign them any.

They have to earn it back, and that will likely take years.


It's not just the liberal media reporting this.

Also, what about there being a vast sea of political idiots in America who just do what they are told do you find unlikely or unbeliveable?

If the MSM said, "Water is wet," would you deny it just because they said it? (Probably.)
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 3:46 pm
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
10952 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:32 pm to
Lay some money against her at these odds. I think you will be happy.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4904 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:32 pm to
Ipsos also polled right before and right after Walz was announced.

Harris leads Trump by 5 points in Ipsos poll

quote:

WASHINGTON, Aug 8 (Reuters) - Democrat Kamala Harris leads Republican Donald Trump 42% to 37% in the race for the Nov. 5 U.S. presidential election, according to an Ipsos poll published on Thursday.

The poll found Harris had widened her lead since a July 22-23 Reuters/Ipsos survey, which found her up 37% to 34% over Trump.

The nationwide poll of 2,045 U.S. adults, conducted Aug. 2-7, found 4% of those surveyed backed independent candidate Robert Kennedy Jr., down from 10% in July.

Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
14658 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by black peter
Member since Aug 2024
14 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:36 pm to
my observation is that polling has not figured out how to weight for trump. but he certainly hasnt seemed to be doing himself any favors since the GOP convention.

fwiw, I think harris wins easily.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
80852 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:37 pm to
fwiw, that's quite a stupid take.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8320 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:39 pm to
From the Times poll-

Only 59% of those polled voted in the last midterm and primary.

Only 22% of those polled voted in last two midterms and general.

These are registered voters, not likely voters.

Therefore, these polls are dog poo. They are used to craft a narrative that the Times wants to portray.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
7460 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:39 pm to
If there’s any truth at all to your hunch/suspicions OP, it simply highlights the power of propaganda and our MSM’s shameless effort to utilize it to assist the Democratic Party.

She has not done or said a damn thing of note since she was anointed the Dem candidate for president.

Not a thing - unless naming a running mate who’s only notable thus far for his military embellishments catching up to him or Kamala herself flip-flopping her own positions and outright adopting Trump’s proposal on not taxing tips ….are all considered strengths of hers.

So if there’s any legitimacy at all to Kamala rising like a rocket, it’s again only due to the power of narrative and the American public’s willingness to buy it hook, line and sinker.

As for Kamala herself, there’s no “there” there. She’s an empty suit.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75356 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

 Democrat Kamala Harris leads Republican Donald Trump 42% to 37% in the race for the Nov. 5 U.S. presidential election, according to an Ipsos poll published on Thursday.

The poll found Harris had widened her lead since a July 22-23 Reuters/Ipsos survey, which found her up 37% to 34% over Trump
What the hell kinda numbers are these?

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The nationwide poll of 2,045 U.S. adults,
OH, garbage numbers.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18800 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

What concerns me most is Vegas. They don’t have a side.


Ok? I remember seeing Biden at +700 on election night in 2020. That fricking turned out great, didn’t it?
Posted by black peter
Member since Aug 2024
14 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:44 pm to
dont know what to tell you. I guess get your flagpole ready for the election certification.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75356 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:44 pm to
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So why is the Washington Post poll gospel but any poll showing Harris ahead not trustworthy?
I didn't say that at all. In fact I believe unfortunately that at the moment she is winning.

What did the Washington Post poll say? I was asking because it wouldn't let me read the story.
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