- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: H1b Visas do not take jobs away from Americans - *DISREGARD I AM WRONG*
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:50 pm to geauxEdO
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:50 pm to geauxEdO
Most of the U.S. government IT departments are being supported by H1Bs.
A.I. will take them all out eventually but I bet most of y'all didn't know that.
A.I. will take them all out eventually but I bet most of y'all didn't know that.
1
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:54 pm to onepiecemayne
quote:
Most of the U.S. government IT departments are being supported by H1Bs.
Yep contractors are typically IT and those contractor companies love them some H1Bs
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:54 pm to geauxEdO
quote:Something like 34% of US families earn north of $150K. The idea that our economy has been somehow destroyed by some legal immigrant workers is dumb.
I know it’s tempting to say, “THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!!!”, but that’s not how H1b visas work.
by law, companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas. In addition, they are required to pay the prevailing wage (aka no undercutting native workers). do some companies violate the law? sure, but they are prosecuted. if the law is enforced, that does not become a problem.
there have been studies on whether these visas have affects on native employment. the conclusion is that these are supplemental - it does not negatively effect native employment. In fact, there are signs of native employment growth due to the innovation caused by these workers.
I’d love to not need H1b visas at all. But unfortunately we’re not there as a country yet. Once again, I urge people to look at the facts instead of making baseless claims about a topic they don’t know about.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:55 pm to Rip Torn
quote:
The tech industry is a dying industry because of AI and outsourcing not because of the H1B program
You quite simply have no idea what the frick you are talking about. Outsourcing is the H1B program. HCL, Infosys, Wipro, Cognizant, TCS, and others absolutely rely on H1Bs to provide outsourced labor that they somehow usually pay the same rate to (64k a year) to replace six figure US citizens.
And AI isn't the reason behind most layoffs in tech, it's just that it needs to be mentioned in press releases to keep the board of directors happy.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:57 pm to Rip Torn
quote:Buggy Whip manufacturers were crying about the fad of the "automobile" around the turn of the 20th century. AI is the game changer.
The tech industry is a dying industry because of AI and outsourcing not because of the H1B program. Will you be sky screaming because of coal miners next? We do need more American engineers but that takes time and apparently math is real hard for American youth
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:57 pm to geauxEdO
quote:
companies are required to recruit Americans before hiring H1b visas
Recruit =/= hire.
quote:
there have been studies
paid for by ??
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:58 pm to stout
quote:
Before the $100K minimum came from the Trump admin, why were companies using H1Bs to get freaking secretaries? Are Americans not skilled enough to get coffee and answer phones or is it because it was cheaper for the company?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:58 pm to LemmyLives
40 years as a programmer. Laid off at 65. I had to train the Indians that took my job.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:07 pm to Tbone2
I've been watching it happen since 2001.
H-1B fraud consultancies grow, with application abuse openly discussed online
Cognizant discriminated against non-Indian workers in H1-B visa case, US jury finds
Uncle Same sounds like it may actually due something about rampant visa H-1B fraud
H-1B fraud consultancies grow, with application abuse openly discussed online
quote:
Our source provided us with a list of 25 companies in various US states that he claimed were abusing the lottery system as well as screenshots of H-1B discussions in public and private Facebook groups where both legitimate and unlawful approaches get discussed.
Cognizant discriminated against non-Indian workers in H1-B visa case, US jury finds
quote:
In the 2017 complaint, the plaintiffs said only about 12 percent of the US IT industry is South Asian, while at least 75 percent of Cognizant's US workforce is South Asian, primarily from India.
Uncle Same sounds like it may actually due something about rampant visa H-1B fraud
quote:
Gee, you mean that surge to 800,000 applications in one year isn't entirely legit? Shocking
quote:
The group said the top 30 H-1B employers hired about 34,000 H-1B workers in 2022 while laying off about 85,000 workers in 2022 and early 2023.
"Rather than turning to the H-1B program as a last resort when US workers cannot be found, most employers hire H-1B workers because they can be underpaid and are de facto indentured to the employer," EPI said in a blog post recently. "This is evidenced by government data showing that technology companies continue to hire H-1B workers in large numbers while significantly reducing the sizes of their workforces."
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:08 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:
I'll trust the people working (or trying to get a job) in the tech sector. Thanks
Oh the blue haired libtards that hate you and want you silenced
Yeah i bet you will trust them
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:13 pm to DallasTiger11
quote:
I know several people IRL who were laid off and trained their H1B Indian replacement.
Yep, my previous employer. I took the lump sum and said FU if you think i'm coming back in as a contractor on hourly wage....some did because they couldn't accept they had been in that job for 5-10 and wouldn't find anything else, more were afraid of change!!
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:18 pm to geauxEdO
They fricking took my job.
Ask anyone who worked in the tech industry. Slow trickle started in late 90s, then the flood gates opened in the 2010s.
At least i could make a bunch of cash during the dotcom boom. If i had entered tech in the 2010s i would be even more pissed right now.
Ask anyone who worked in the tech industry. Slow trickle started in late 90s, then the flood gates opened in the 2010s.
At least i could make a bunch of cash during the dotcom boom. If i had entered tech in the 2010s i would be even more pissed right now.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:22 pm to geauxEdO
quote:
yes, i’m surrounded by them at work.
AND...that's because of H-1B visas.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:00 pm to Tbone2
quote:
40 years as a programmer. Laid off at 65. I had to train the Indians that took my job.
Many such cases, including myself.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:29 pm to greygoose
quote:
Buggy Whip manufacturers were crying about the fad of the "automobile" around the turn of the 20th century. AI is the game changer.
Yep, and those manufacturers either retooled and sold vacuum cleaners ie Hoover) or cashed out. I don’t think anyone on this thread is asking they receive a too big to fail bail out
As for the relevant comparison, their employees could also find work with transferable skills. They did not have to compete with an immigrant work force. If H1Bs with today’s relocation ability, they would have likely been without jobs
I don’t understand all the cliches about AI though. If AI reduces demand for those jobs then it’s even more reason to eliminate or reform the H1B program. We should certainly be able to fill the supply with Us citizens if demand is decreasing. H1B was meant for the Enrico Fermi’s of the world, not for clerks that just have some tech skills
Posted on 11/12/25 at 4:28 pm to gaetti15
quote:
Yep contractors are typically IT and those contractor companies love them some H1Bs
State level maybe, but I don't think that flies for any sort of federal clearance.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 4:48 pm to geauxEdO
Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here. so your going to tell me they couldn't find an American to take a fricking Government job?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:05 pm to geauxEdO
Are you a hiring manager? I am and in the past 5-6 years HR doesn’t do anything they’re “supposed to do”. When a figurative stack of resumes comes to me for review, and it’s all black people, it tells you they aren’t recruiting across the entire population. They’re recruiting based on personal bias and likely threats from state or local govt to embrace DEI or pay the price.
So when you say “corporations are SUPPOSED to recruit Americans before H1Bs”, it’s meaningless
So when you say “corporations are SUPPOSED to recruit Americans before H1Bs”, it’s meaningless
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:10 pm to geauxEdO
quote:
yes, i’m surrounded by them at work. I also don’t know of any white software engineers struggling to find a job.
The plural of “anecdote” isn’t “data”. There are scores of American software engineers who can’t find work.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:12 pm to SDVTiger
quote:
Oh the blue haired libtards that hate you and want you silenced
People posting in this thread aren’t blue haired libtards.
Page 3 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News