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Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:15 am to saintsfan6
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taking PICTURES of themselves doing so?
This is how they get paid. Was already proven.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:16 am to Fat Bastard
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* 235,367 ballots were changed by either a human or machine after they were tallied
and that is why it takes a week to count all the votes, after they are counted, then they know how many must be altered to vote the correct way the vote counters want the election to go
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:17 am to Jjdoc
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quote:But the tape I watched didn’t show that. But it did. You just didn't watch it.
Yes I did.
At what point in the tape did someone drop 100 ballots? 50? 20?
I could give you 20, maybe I missed it. But where?
The tape covered over a week. Many taped were around 4 ballots. It’s tough to see.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 11:21 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:17 am to doubleb
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I'm skeptical that all the ballots totaling 30% of the total number of registered voters...not actual voters...are illegitimate. That could be as high as half or more of all votes cast.
You have to be skeptical, there’s no evidence that happened.
That's my point. OP referenced the article that said 740,000 ballots didn't have the required "chain of custody" and that officials violated Arizona law by counting them. There are approximately 2,500,000 registered voters in Maricopa County. So yeah, a number equaling about 30% of all registered voters, and almost half of all the approximately 1,500,000 votes cast.
Of course, I'm always skeptical of stuff people post from the Gateway Pundit.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 11:19 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:17 am to AggieHank86
Hank in here making a lot of sense! 
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:19 am to Jjdoc
They can just claim they are "family" ballots. Once they hit the bottom of that drop box, it is impossible to disprove.
Its one of the MAJOR issues with MIV.
Its one of the MAJOR issues with MIV.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:19 am to Jjdoc
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taking PICTURES of themselves doing so? This is how they get paid. Was already proven.
I saw one lady take a picture. If someone else did I missed it.
And I could see someone documenting what they did for a perfectly honest reason. Today people document everything.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:20 am to doubleb
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Sure some folks dumped off multiple ballots, but I can understand how that could easily happen
It’s illegal.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:21 am to Jjdoc
quote:How?
As I have said 1000 times, it is just not logistically possible for this sort of violation to be used to overturn a PAST election. This sort of data is useful ONLY in identifying structural vulnerabilities in the process ... and removing/resolving themquote:
Yes there is. The fact is a court doesn't want to touch it because they lack the balls.
Use my hypo. 200 ballots in the box. 25 appear to have been deposited by a mule. How do you determine which 25 ballots to exclude from the count in THIS election?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:21 am to Jjdoc
You don’t have standing
Lake doesn’t have standing
Nobody got standing.
Lake doesn’t have standing
Nobody got standing.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:23 am to doubleb
There were at least 5, likely more taking pictures. You didn’t watch the video did you? Or not closely at least.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:23 am to Jjdoc
So is it illegal to do what the video shows? Does Arizona election law permit people to harvest ballots and drop off multiple ballots at one drop box? What are the limits?
So if you had observers there in October and November pre 11/8, why wasn’t law enforcement called to report a crime as soon as it happened? Why not get the names and license numbers of the mules? Bringing this up a week after the election is horseshite.
So if you had observers there in October and November pre 11/8, why wasn’t law enforcement called to report a crime as soon as it happened? Why not get the names and license numbers of the mules? Bringing this up a week after the election is horseshite.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:23 am to doubleb
quote:If I am responsible for enforcing Title 16, the folks who film themselves dropping a stack of ballots are certainly among the first that I investigate. It may WELL be innocent, but it LOOKS suspicious.
I saw one lady take a picture. ... And I could see someone documenting what they did for a perfectly honest reason.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:26 am to LSUAngelHere1
quote:Not necessarily. You are jumping to conclusions.
Sure some folks dumped off multiple ballots, but I can understand how that could easily happenquote:
It’s illegal.
An extended family of 30 people request early ballots, and they ask ONE family member to drop them all at a box. That is NOT illegal, because the delivery person was a family member.
A nursing home has 30 residents request early ballots, and they ask ONE employee to drop them all at a box. That is NOT illegal, because the delivery person was a "caretaker."
JJDoc is doing what JJDoc does. He is taking a situation that MIGHT be illegal and that MIGHT be legit, and he is jumping straight to the premise that it IS illegal.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 11:28 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:26 am to saintsfan6
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There were at least 5, likely more taking pictures. You didn’t watch the video did you? Or not closely at least.
I saw one lady step out of her car, and take a picture. If others did it I missed it.
I will go back and look again.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:26 am to BamaGradinTn
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That's my point. OP referenced the article that said 740,000 ballots didn't have the required "chain of custody"
You are confusing 2 different issues. Part of the article is giving history showing it's been a problem.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:29 am to AggieHank86
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If I am responsible for enforcing Title 16, the folks who film themselves dropping a stack of ballots are certainly among the first that I investigate. It may WELL be innocent, but it LOOKS suspicious.
If it’s indeed a pattern, I would agree.
Do they try and enforce the law? They should, but I live in BR where they routinely let dangerous criminals out on bail.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:29 am to AggieHank86
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Yes there is. The fact is a court doesn't want to touch it because they lack the balls.
How?
Use my hypo. 200 ballots in the box. 25 appear to have been deposited by a mule. How do you determine which 25 ballots to exclude from the count in THIS election?
A court can stand up and say we have to have election integrity.
- I see the video evidence
- I know that 70 precincts in Maricopa went down for hours.
- I there fore rule the election must be redone and Drop boxes are to not be used.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:29 am to saintsfan6
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There were at least 5, likely more taking pictures.
His next point will be that proves nothing... even though this is not all of the footage.
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