re: Graham: Impeachment 'dead on arrival' in Senate if Dems keep whistleblower from testifying

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But, in this scenario, the transcript (pic) shows you not shooting the guy.

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Lol yeah in this case the transcript is NOT good for the prosecution thus the efforts to utilize hearsay, the subject of the hearsay being icky feels about what they think Trump's intent REALLY was.

I can't believe I even type that out. It's like a first day criminal procedure hypothet that cartoonishly demonstrates what you cannot get into trial.

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If there was evidence that I committed whatever I’m accused of why would the motive of the accuser matter

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In a custody battle, would you want the judge to take your husband’s word as gospel for every accusation without motive?

His motive is his interpretation. His interpretation is the evidence.

Imagine if it were an ordinary human being that was taking these sniper shots from every direction, all day every day. Good thing our boy's ten foot tall and bullet proof.

Turtle better tell Chuckie to frick off.


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Sen. Chuck Schumer: "I'm ready to sit down with Leader McConnell and try to come up with fair rules [on impeachment]. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to do that."

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In this scenario wouldn't it be that "we have someone that heard you were accused of murder by an eye witness. And while we know everyone that could be an eye witness and none of them say you did it, but this 3rd party account says you did"

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Actually, yeah, it would.

"And we choose to believe this person who heard things over the security video footage that shows that, while you were in fact at the scene, you and the deceased had a genial conversation, shook hands and you left. But this guy over here heard from his brother in laws sisters hairdresser that you killed the dude, so we're going with that. And no, you may not question our witness. I mean, what reason would you have other than to try to discredit them?"

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Why does it matter, what could they possibly have to ask him? It wouldn’t matter if it were Hillary herself, Trumps actions are what’s under question and the motive of the whistleblower should be irrelevant.

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Why does it matter?! Seriously??

It fricking matters because this fricking “whistleblower” filed a complaint and accused the President of United States of America of committing a crime, and his accusations are the sole basis for which this entire impeachment charade was opened on. If someone accuses you of a crime, and you go to trial for it, you have the right to face your accuser and have your counsel cross examine them. The prosecution doesn’t get to pick and choose which witnesses a defense can call. And guess what happens when an accuser refuses to cooperate in a case, IT GETS DROPPED.

More importantly, when you think your “accusations” are enough to remove a duly elected President and overturn an election, you need to convince those whose votes you are trying nullify- that a serious crime was committed.

Now maybe you can answer this- why the change of heart from Dems and the whistleblower about testifying?? The 180 happened after we discovered Schiff lied about when he received the complaint and about his staff having prior discussions with the WB— is that just a coincidence? And spare us the bullshite excuse of “concern for his safety”- bc we all know that the only fricking people who harass and assault their “political enemies” are your fellow Democrats. Coincidentally, the same party who has a long track record of prosecuting, silencing and/or retaliating against any whistleblowers who is perceived as a threat to their party- see Snowden, Assange, Manning, the recent cbs employee, the list goes on.

An impeachment inquiry without an impeachment vote is just theater
Dems are running a shadow procedure to try to avoid actual rules and oversite
It really means nothing until Pelosi puts it to a vote to formalize the proceedings

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He said “if”. Wtf, it’s dead no matter what.

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I think he means that Republican leadership in the Senate will simply ignore the House's vote and won't even bother setting up a trial in the Senate.

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When this latest attempt to remove the president fails

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I think we all know that the Senate will not vote to remove Trump from office.