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Graham: Impeachment 'dead on arrival' in Senate if Dems keep whistleblower from testifying

Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:16 pm
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31089 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:16 pm
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It’s impossible to bring this case forward, in my view, fairly without us knowing who the whistleblower is and having a chance to cross-examine them about any biases they may have," he said. "So if they don’t call the whistleblower in the House, this thing is dead on arrival in the Senate.”


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"This is not about Schiff finding the truth, this is about Schiff trying to destroy the Trump presidency," Graham said.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:18 pm
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16420 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:17 pm to
He said “if”. Wtf, it’s dead no matter what.

Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31089 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:21 pm to
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Wtf, it’s dead no matter what.


I take that to mean there will not even be a trial, vote to dismiss/acquit right after it is sent over.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36092 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:22 pm to
A trial is better for Trump tbh if the whistleblower doesn't testify.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29172 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:24 pm to
Why does it matter, what could they possibly have to ask him? It wouldn’t matter if it were Hillary herself, Trumps actions are what’s under question and the motive of the whistleblower should be irrelevant.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:25 pm to
Graham on the right, Schiff on the left.



So this being the case, Schiff MAAAAY want to reconsider his position on calling the whistleblower to appear. Unless, of course, this isn't at all about an impeachment actually going to trial, and instead simply and exclusively intending to damage his political rival. Obviously we know it's the latter.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15106 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:25 pm to
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He said “if”. Wtf, it’s dead no matter what.



You are exactly right. If we expand his statement then it is possible the Senate trial is AOk if they let the whistleblower testify??

I increasingly get the feeling that there are a pile of people both from the left and former Trump administration officials that think he needs to go. What a clusterfricke these last three years have been.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53439 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:26 pm to
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he motive of the whistleblower should be irrelevant


I'm sure you'd say the same thing if you were accused of something.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:26 pm to
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Why does it matter, what could they possibly have to ask him? It wouldn’t matter if it were Hillary herself, Trumps actions are what’s under question and the motive of the whistleblower should be irrelevant.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71428 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Why does it matter, what could they possibly have to ask him? It wouldn’t matter if it were Hillary herself, Trumps actions are what’s under question and the motive of the whistleblower should be irrelevant.


This is hilarious.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:29 pm to
I wonder where gnome thinks credibility comes into play in a trial/prosecution/impeachment? Maybe he thinks it doesn't come into play at all. But surely not. Even my unborn child who hasn't even been conceived knows that.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34114 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:31 pm to
Everyone is screaming at Senate Republicans to do something; hold hearings.

Democrats are going to screw this up all by themselves.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29172 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:33 pm to
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I'm sure you'd say the same thing if you were accused of something.



If there was evidence that I committed whatever I’m accused of why would the motive of the accuser matter? Are the cops gonna go ohhhhh DTG your ex is just pissed, flush the kilo of coke on you and we’re cool. Just don’t do it again though ok? Yessir officer.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81869 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:33 pm to
Terrible strategy by Graham - good thing McConnell would actually be calling the shots. We could end the campaigns of all 4 senators and cause a huge rift on the left when brain addled Biden emerges as the nominee
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71428 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

If there was evidence that I committed whatever I’m accused of why would the motive of the accuser matter? Are the cops gonna go ohhhhh DTG your ex is just pissed, flush the kilo of coke on you and we’re cool. Just don’t do it again though ok? Yessir officer.


I hope you are in no way, shape, or form involved in the legal system.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29172 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:34 pm to
I’m not, so fill me in on how I’m wrong.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

I wonder where gnome thinks credibility comes into play in a trial/prosecution/impeachment? Maybe he thinks it doesn't come into play at all. But surely not. Even my unborn child who hasn't even been conceived knows that.

"Sir, you've been accused of murder. We have an eyewitness that says he saw you do it."

"Well, we're certainly gonna need to have him as a witness so we can question him."

"Sorry, we can't let you do that. It's really not necessary. He says he saw you do it. This is now about you. Not him."

"Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm"


Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29172 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:37 pm to
I thought we had a transcript of the call, ie a pic of me shooting the guy in your scenario. It’s no longer just the word of an eye witness.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:39 pm to
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I thought we had a transcript of the call, ie a pic of me shooting the guy in your scenario. It’s no longer just the word of an eye witness.


But, in this scenario, the transcript (pic) shows you not shooting the guy.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48950 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:40 pm to
There is no whistleblower, someone who heard third hand bullshite, it’s already dead on arrival
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