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re: Govt Assistance and Minimum Wage

Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by cheeznet
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:29 pm to
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Golfer


Soft bigotry of low expectations.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138857 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:30 pm to
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they seriously do think flipping burgers at mcdonalds or jack in the box is equivalent to a career job and they want to mandate that it pays $35-$50k a year doing it.

that right there is the core of their thought process, a dead end part time job requiring no skill or ambition is what they want to pay competitive wages with the pay scale of a professional college educated career path

I saw someone featured in a story who has worked at McDonalds in Chicago for 26 years and still makes minimum wage. You would think they would've tried something new after almost 3 decades.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:31 pm to
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Shouldn't that minimum wage then increase with the inflation of shelter, food, and utilities?


Like I said, when that happens, the prices of goods and services increase. The only people who are hurt are those who are part of the middle class.

The poor are still poor. The rich are still rich. The middle class picks up the tab.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:31 pm to
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if the worker did make better life choices and really all workers made better life choices in and did not want to work a minimum wage job because they were more qualified, then who would be hired to do the job? And if no one was hired to do the job because it was all beneath them then they would have to pay more money for to hire people to do those jobs.


There are no words. Seriously.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 12:57 am to
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If you make minimum wage and are above the age of 18, you are a failure. End of story. 


What the hell does that have to do with the fact that minimum wage goes up every 5 to 10 years due to cost of living and inflation. None of you idiots are answering that question or paying any attention to it. You're just throwing out a bunch of right-wing talking points and saying that I don't understand economics.

And again, none of you seem to understand that if all of these people made better decisions that there would be no one to work lower paying jobs. You can insult these people all you want but it takes all kinds and minimum wage goes up to meet inflation and cost of living.

Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:01 am to
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There are no words. Seriously.


Im sorry you cant understand. Really. So much stupid in here. Simply pointing out that some people made bad life choices and frick those people doesn't address any part of the problem. It's just angry bs and justification for not giving a shite.

This isn't about handouts this is about something that happens to adjust you inflation and cost of living every 5 or 10 years for a very long time. It's still going to happen one way or another. All of you idiots to keep acting like it's some injustice are laughable
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97682 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:02 am to
Keep melting
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:06 am to
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Keep melting


Lol. Im here to help explain what is going to happen. Minimum wage will increase. At least it has must of the time...amirite. Lulz
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:10 am to
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This isn't about handouts this is about something that happens to adjust you inflation and cost of living every 5 or 10 years for a very long time


In 5 years time, staying at a menial job you'll double your wages.

No one is supposed to live on min wage.

Now a bump to $15\hr will give many of them a permenant vacation
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 1:11 am
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:14 am to
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In 5 years time, staying at a menial job you'll double your wages.

No one is supposed to live on min wage.

Now a bump to $15\hr will give many of them a permenant vacation


Let's start this from a simple point wish you can follow along:

- I never said anything about 15 per hour. Not once. Only you and all of the idiot right wing, jackass posters of this site keep going on about it.

- minimum wage goes up every 5 to 10 years to meet a livable wage whether or not it's a sustained livable wage is irrelevant.

- I don't even know what you were supposed to have meant with your last sentence but I'm just going to assume it is as off bases the rest and move on.

Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39505 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:16 am to
The idea that minimum wage should be able to support a family might be one of the biggest loads of shite the Democratic Party is pushing. Don’t have kids if you only make minimum and if you make minimum past high school you are might as well just give up cause you fricked up a long time ago
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:21 am to
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The idea that minimum wage should be able to support a family might be one of the biggest loads of shite the Democratic Party is pushing. Don’t have kids if you only make minimum and if you make minimum past high school you are might as well just give up cause you fricked up a long time ago



No one is saying that you need to support a family with minimum wage. At least I never did. And whether or not someone f***** up or should give up in your eyes doesn't change the fact that minimum wage goes up all of the time. The fact that you mouth breathers are so surprised by this is absolutely laughable. I know you guys are big fans of the memory hole but try to pay attention to history.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:24 am to
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minimum wage goes up every 5 to 10 years to meet a livable wage whether or not it's a sustained livable wage is irrelevant.


Minimum wage was never meant to be a livable wage.

The proper thing to do would be subsidizing low skill, lazy workers instead of raising the minimum wage. Include training and education as part of their benefit package
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38395 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:26 am to
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Minimum wage will increase


Along with the price of goods and services WHICH AFFECTS THOSE WHO MAKE MINIMUM WAGE.

Holy fricking shite PICK UP A MOTHER frickING ECONOMICS BOOK YOU STUPID frick
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:29 am to
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No one is saying that you need to support a family with minimum wage. At least I never did. And whether or not someone f***** up or should give up in your eyes doesn't change the fact that minimum wage goes up all of the time. The fact that you mouth breathers are so surprised by this is absolutely laughable. I know you guys are big fans of the memory hole but try to pay attention to history.


Your argument is killing itself
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:38 am to
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Your argument is killing itself


Elaborate
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:40 am to
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What the hell does that have to do with the fact that minimum wage goes up every 5 to 10 years due to cost of living and inflation.


That's stupid, too...

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And again, none of you seem to understand that if all of these people made better decisions that there would be no one to work lower paying jobs.


Is abortion allowed on teenagers now?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:55 am to
Yep, the min wage is paid by companies that usually have very low margins. Lefties think the increase will come from profits, but that's not the case. That price increase is passed on to consumers.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10809 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:01 am to
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Ebbandflow


You would agree that what these people lack isn't so much the amount of money, but that money's purchasing power, correct?

In your view, how is purchasing power created?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38395 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:10 am to
It's just mind-numbing. What? You mean the price of goods and services will increase and disproportionatly affecting poor people?

And this in tandem with less hours worked post wage increase (see Seattle) acts as a double whammy that puts those whom make minimum wage in a worse spot than they were before.


But hey. It's just basic economics. Who has time for facts when you have things like "muh feelings"
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