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Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:55 am to MastrShake
Who will be the Bogeyman reason for unseating our NEXT nationalist and duly elected POTUS?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:55 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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is it not still an attack that should be responded to? Instead of being bullied by Russia with no response?
what should the UK's response be to Obama's attempt to influence the Brexit vote?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:58 am to bencoleman
quote:i knew this when it said CIA. These mother frickers are anti America and if they have an R by their name, they are definitely establishment POSs
Will Hurd campaigned against President Trump so it's safe to say he's a nevertrumper and probably Republican in name only.
Wake up, guys...
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
That’s something they will never address. The United States government has interfered, corrupted, and fixed more foreign elections than any other entity in history.
Want to know how to counter this “attack on democracy?. Don’t have a dumb as frick population who believe Facebook memes.
I would love to see proof that the Russian troll campaigns actually changed a single vote. As if people that voted for Trump because of that.
Russia’s goal is was to sow discord and mistrust. By being gullible/stupid enough to run with this conspiracy, the media has done exactly that.
Want to know how to counter this “attack on democracy?. Don’t have a dumb as frick population who believe Facebook memes.
I would love to see proof that the Russian troll campaigns actually changed a single vote. As if people that voted for Trump because of that.
Russia’s goal is was to sow discord and mistrust. By being gullible/stupid enough to run with this conspiracy, the media has done exactly that.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 10:00 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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what should the UK's response be to Obama's attempt to influence the Brexit vote?
Yeah, public comments and cyber hacking election polling, those are definitely the same.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:00 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
Where is the proof they changed a single vote? Hacking and propaganda is not new. It’s always happened. And always will continue.
Quit looking for excuses. Moderate voters didn’t like Hillary’s policies, and the DNC made a terrible blunder by catering to their fringe instead of their historic base because they thought they had it in the bag.
Quit looking for excuses. Moderate voters didn’t like Hillary’s policies, and the DNC made a terrible blunder by catering to their fringe instead of their historic base because they thought they had it in the bag.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 10:06 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:02 am to MastrShake
One must ask...why? In 2018 what specifically does Russia have to gain by destroying US democracy?
How is Russia benefiting from the Trump policies? How is Russia benefiting from the purging of corrupt beaurocrats sowing discord behind the scenes?
Specifically, what cant Russia do now, that they could do if the US was in some kind of weakened state?
How is Russia benefiting from the Trump policies? How is Russia benefiting from the purging of corrupt beaurocrats sowing discord behind the scenes?
Specifically, what cant Russia do now, that they could do if the US was in some kind of weakened state?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:03 am to MastrShake
Pretty funny you think we care what a GOPe al-CIAda globalist says. It's pretty damn obvious the American media and the dems are the adversaries
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:06 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
And cyber hacking is nothing compared to assassinating an elected leader like Allende and replacing him with a monster like Pinochet or toppling Mossadegh and installing the Shah as an absolute dictator. If Congressman Hurd were so outraged at Russia's alleged attempt to undermine democracy, why in the hell would he work for an agency that makes cyber hacking look like child's play?
Seriously, the faux outrage from the neo-McCarthyites at the DNC and the intelligence community is so disingenuous it's laughable. Why haven't we seen Democrats and never Trumpers put forth a bill prohibiting any form of election interference by the NSA, CIA or any other government entity? We'll never see that though, because the same people decrying election interference here are the very people who promote it everywhere else.
Seriously, the faux outrage from the neo-McCarthyites at the DNC and the intelligence community is so disingenuous it's laughable. Why haven't we seen Democrats and never Trumpers put forth a bill prohibiting any form of election interference by the NSA, CIA or any other government entity? We'll never see that though, because the same people decrying election interference here are the very people who promote it everywhere else.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:07 am to TigerChief10
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It's pretty damn obvious the American media and the dems are the adversaries
I don’t think they are the enemy per se. I just think they are so blinded by their hatred of Trump and disbelief over his election that they gobbled up the Russian ‘interference’ angle. As if it was something new. You know, exactly what the Russians wanted to happen
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:26 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
quote:link? Russians buying $15K in FB ads was the alleged story
public comments and cyber hacking election polling
The only election hacking was by our own CIA, specifically in Georgia, so how do you reconcile that?!?
And what about America’s Secretary of State assassinating a country’s leader, leaving Libya in ruins? We came, we saw, he’s dead
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:48 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Statements like Clinton's and this one from Madeleine Albright are why no one in the world has any sympathy for any blowback the United States may receive for its decades of foreign policy lunacy. Half a million children are just collateral damage. She's rotting in hell right now.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:52 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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Trump's staff has acknowledged that Russia tried to mess with our elections. So it is not MSM fake news.
Of course it happened. Just like several other countries tried. And just like we try to meddle in other countries elections
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And if you do agree that it happened, do you think America should respond for this attempt to attack our democracy?
Not at all because we do the exact same shite. Don't throw punches and cry when you get punched back.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:00 am to MastrShake
Fear mongering....
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:05 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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public comments and cyber hacking election polling, those are definitely the same.
polling?
we talking about...polling?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:19 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
I agree that Russia tried to influence our elections. I don’t at all agree that this qualifies as an attack on our democracy.
The full extent of russia’s involvement in our election was spreading information. That’s it. Most of it was false, yes. But spreading information is not at all the same thing as attacking us. When you use languange like that you are grossly misrepresenting reality, and that gross misrepresentation has been as harmful to our democracy as anything russia did themself.
As to the question of ‘should we respond’, yes, but we should only respond to the extent that we disincentivize similar behavior moving forward. We can’t punish a foreign country when they did absolutely nothing illegal. Hell, one of the presidential candidates did the exact same thing on a smaller scale themself *cough CtR cough*
Our reponse should be to require disclosure of the source of funding behind any politically driven paid posting activities. We require by law that tv and radio political ads identify their source of funding so that everyone can judge for themselves whether or not the source is trustworthy. We need to develop a similar framework for sponsored content online. Moving forward, we need to devise a way to reveal whether an online message is coming from a genuine, free thinking idividual or whether it is a preconceived message being coordinated by a political actor. But we can’t retroactively punish those who operated fully within the confines of our laws.
The full extent of russia’s involvement in our election was spreading information. That’s it. Most of it was false, yes. But spreading information is not at all the same thing as attacking us. When you use languange like that you are grossly misrepresenting reality, and that gross misrepresentation has been as harmful to our democracy as anything russia did themself.
As to the question of ‘should we respond’, yes, but we should only respond to the extent that we disincentivize similar behavior moving forward. We can’t punish a foreign country when they did absolutely nothing illegal. Hell, one of the presidential candidates did the exact same thing on a smaller scale themself *cough CtR cough*
Our reponse should be to require disclosure of the source of funding behind any politically driven paid posting activities. We require by law that tv and radio political ads identify their source of funding so that everyone can judge for themselves whether or not the source is trustworthy. We need to develop a similar framework for sponsored content online. Moving forward, we need to devise a way to reveal whether an online message is coming from a genuine, free thinking idividual or whether it is a preconceived message being coordinated by a political actor. But we can’t retroactively punish those who operated fully within the confines of our laws.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:22 am to MastrShake
Lefties are scared of memes and Twitter bots 
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:34 am to MastrShake
"And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years."-Barack Hussein Obama, October 22, 2012
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:42 am to MrLSU
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The Russian infiltration of the PT is nothing short of scary. How many bots a day are we seeing right now in just this one thread.
Botception
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