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re: God Emperor: Illegals should be deported with "no judges or court cases"

Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:50 pm to
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When the government does it, yes.


What the difference?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45193 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:50 pm to
Right, none of those things would be occurring.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48290 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:51 pm to
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No more than having a squatter on your private land removed for trespass.


Do you know how you get squatters removed from your property?

Through the court system.

You guys are proving my point.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48290 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

What the difference?


5th Amendment only applies to the government
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20862 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:52 pm to
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That maybe your opinion but it is totally incorrect from a legal standpoint.


You will admit they have far fewer rights than citizens.

In Jennings v. Rodriguez (this year) SCOTUS was questioning if aliens had a right to bail.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:52 pm to
Agree because they are fricking illegal!!!
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

This is not true.


bullshite.
Let me guess your spin.
You're walking down the street and a racist cop "profiles" you to harass for no reason?

Next time you get stopped for a non criminal traffic offense refuse to ID yourself and get back to me.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45193 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

When the government does it, yes.


Lol. According to your argument, that would mean the act of removing the trespassers before legal proceedings would be a violation of the trespassers 5th Amendment rights.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 3:59 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42495 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:54 pm to
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Let's not emulate Europe.




Thats what we are trying not to do.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:55 pm to
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You have an awful lot of faith in our federal govt to deport only illegals.


Do you know of any instance where a citizen has been deported for not being a citizen?
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:57 pm to
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I agree but that seems like something he shouldn’t have said.


He most certainly should say this. It's stiff like this that will make me vote for him in 2020. He isn't a pussy and will not taking crap from the real power behind all of this...the globalists.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:57 pm to
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Not in every state


In which states can you refuse to provide ID when asked?


Never mind, I duckduckgoed it. It's still vague if it only applied to citizens.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 4:01 pm
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45193 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:58 pm to
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In which states can you refuse to provide ID when asked?


In Florida you can.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6931 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:00 pm to
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In which states can you refuse to provide ID when asked?


All of them.

There is no law that requires you to show id for no reason.

If you get pulled over by a cop for speeding and don't want to show your id then you might be arrested and then the court system takes over.

Lotta fantasies in this thread.



This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 4:01 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30261 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:00 pm to
No wonder “Florida man” is so popular!
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17100 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:02 pm to
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Due Process applies to more than just criminal proceedings and clearly this is a criminal action as they are being punished for illegal presence.




But last week the Dem Mantra was "this is a civil matter not a criminal one".

I'll only give ya a 4.4 on the double back flip without the 1.5 twist as you failed to stick the landing.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20862 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:03 pm to
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Do you know of any instance where a citizen has been deported for not being a citizen?


LINK

quote:

Sergio Carrillo had already been handcuffed in the Home Depot parking lot when an officer wearing a Homeland Security uniform appeared.

“Homeland Security?” Carrillo asked. “What do you want with me?”
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Ignoring Carrillo’s demands for an explanation, the officer ordered the 39-year-old taken to a federal detention facility in downtown Los Angeles for people believed to be in the country illegally.

“You’re making a big mistake,” Carrillo recalled saying from the back seat to the officers driving him. “I am a U.S. citizen.”


He is probably not alone.

Eta: lets count the downvotes and see how many small govt consersatives are ok with deporting citizens
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34578 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:05 pm to
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Families aren’t separated if they’re sent home together.


Sig-worthy
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:07 pm to
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He is probably not alone.



doesn't justify zero enforcement

If he doesn't like it he should support better enforcement at the border so that the country isn't crawling with illegals.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:08 pm to
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The refusal by ICE officials to listen to Carrillo’s claims of citizenship appeared to violate an agency policy that requires officers to thoroughly and quickly investigate such claims. If there is any doubt whether someone is a citizen, the policy instructs officers not to arrest the person until the confusion is resolved.
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