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re: Girlfriend’s 12 year old child hates Trump and thinks she’s trans
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
My bad for the punctuation. It happens.
I just had this image pop into my head of when I was a little boy and the men would gather to discuss important issues, your proverbial gauntlet. They would put on their masks beforehand, to conceal their identity. Everybody would use cute nicknames for each other, and they would collect positive or negative points depending on who agreed with them. The most important part was that they only frequented meetings that had a high percentage of people that agreed with them.
And there, among their doctrinal brethren, anonymously, they would share their observations about the world, running the gauntlet.
I just had this image pop into my head of when I was a little boy and the men would gather to discuss important issues, your proverbial gauntlet. They would put on their masks beforehand, to conceal their identity. Everybody would use cute nicknames for each other, and they would collect positive or negative points depending on who agreed with them. The most important part was that they only frequented meetings that had a high percentage of people that agreed with them.
And there, among their doctrinal brethren, anonymously, they would share their observations about the world, running the gauntlet.
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:50 am to TN Tygah
Run.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:20 am to TN Tygah
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This was today. Comes home, says “Mom I think I’m trans.” This is a public school in Murfreesboro, TN, mind you. Same night, I was watching part of an interview with Trump (can’t remember her name, the one who said “are you ready for tough questions” and he said “you don’t ask Biden tough questions”). Kid says, “wow. You better not like Trump.” I said, “what do you not like about Trump?” She said, “are you freaking serious.” This is the first time I saw first hand what they’re doing to kids. I don’t envy you guys who have kids of your own right now. It is ridiculous. There’s GOTTA be some level of pushback from folks to at least move the needle back to reality, somewhat. Doesn’t there? This is Tennessee for Pete’s sake.
Circling back on this and I’ll get downvoted to hell, but who really cares about that.
Do you really want to do what’s right by this child and mother?
I dealt with a similar scenario a few years ago with my kid (I’ve shared it before, but it wasn’t met with much acceptance). She told me, as a seventh grader, that she wanted to come out as a lesbian. I told her something like this, “I understand that you’re trying to discover who you are, and how to distinguish yourself as a unique individual. That’s something we all go through. A label like lesbian, though, carries a much greater social consequence than jock, band kid, bookworm, etc. So, if you get to the end of this road to self discovery, and lesbian is in fact who you are, I will support you, because I love you. But, for now, let’s not proclaim something to the world that may be hard to shake off if it turns out to not be who you are.”
It turns out she wasn’t gay, and, in my opinion, she’s a better person for having gone through a deep, intentional introspection about her identity. Some people don’t do that until their fourth marriage or their third heart attack.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:26 am to HVAU
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It turns out she wasn’t gay, and, in my opinion, she’s a better person for having gone through a deep, intentional introspection about her identity
My granddaughters best friend here has been raped and abused by the gay community. Both parents are dead, raised by grandparents, grandpa just died.
A teacher convinced him he was a girl. He pretended to be a girl for two years, now realizes he isnt a girl.
This journey is destructive for children. Stop trying to force retarded identity on these children who are too young to understand, and follow the lead of adults.
Its reprehensible, and child abuse.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:provide evidence. And me pointing out that y’all love to insult me/others isn’t me complaining about it. It’s stating a fact.
Constantly
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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My granddaughters best friend here has been raped and abused by the gay community. Both parents are dead, raised by grandparents, grandpa just died. A teacher convinced him he was a girl. He pretended to be a girl for two years, now realizes he isnt a girl. This journey is destructive for children. Stop trying to force retarded identity on these children who are too young to understand, and follow the lead of adults. Its reprehensible, and child abuse.
Your anecdote is an isolated event that isn’t indicative of broader abuses occurring. It’s sad and shocking, but not telling.
In my daughter’s situation there was no teacher involved. It was her and a friend that was a bit less sheltered. That’s pretty typical.
I agree with you that the journey can be destructive, like a lot of other adolescent journeys. That’s why good parenting is crucial.
You want to see your kid head the opposite direction? Deny them agency. Tell them they aren’t allowed to consider their own identity. You might see them acquiesce, but they’ll probably just hate you and engage in behaviors that you find distasteful, if not abhorrent.
Have some real dialogue with them. Treat them in a way that recognizes what they are, young people on the cusp of adulthood struggling to understand what that means. Let them know that there are some real difficulties for people that live lifestyles that run counter to tradition.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:43 am to HVAU
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I agree with you that the journey can be destructive, like a lot of other adolescent journeys. That’s why good parenting is crucial.
And depending on how destructive the journey could get, sometimes good parenting means telling them to knock that shite off because it's a bad idea.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:45 am to HVAU
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Your anecdote is an isolated event
Absolute bullshite.
Kids who identify as trans or gay are molested at a much higher rate than straight kids. Many are confused or autistic, and preyed upon by shitty adults.
The gay community destroys them. This is forced ideology, not organic. These kids will never have a normal, fulfilling life.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 9:46 am
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:48 am to Flats
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And depending on how destructive the journey could get, sometimes good parenting means telling them to knock that shite off because it's a bad idea.
Good parents will not let them take that journey until their mind and body are developed.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:49 am to 4cubbies
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When strange old men start talking about having sex with homeless men- that’s when I know I’ve hit a nerve
Which is worse: Making fun of Liberal idiots who admit to having sex with bums, or having sex with bums?
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:54 am to Flats
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And depending on how destructive the journey could get, sometimes good parenting means telling them to knock that shite off because it's a bad idea.
I agree. Telling them knock it off works really well when you’re able to lay out a rational reason, and engage them in the discussion. If you’re telling them to knock it off with no recognition of their agency, I think it’s probably less effective.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:57 am to TN Tygah
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This is the first time I saw first hand what they’re doing to kids
or it could be your girlfriend is just a shitty parent.
i mean i have 3 boys, granted they go to private school, and i dont have any of these issues. my boys play outside, play sports, fish, hunt and in general do what boys have done for decades.
and so many of yall sit on here and complain about the government, then turn around and send you kids to government schools...wtf do you expect?
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Absolute bull shite. Kids who identify as trans or gay are molested at a much higher rate than straight kids. Many are confused or autistic, and preyed upon by shitty adults. The gay community destroys them. This is forced ideology, not organic. These kids will never have a normal, fulfilling life.
You know, my line of work exposes me to all types of folks. I work with straight people, gay people, trans people. I have never had a concern about my children being taking advantage of by any of those folks.
Those creepy frickers at church though, you know the ones. Those ones are the concern for me.
Also, I think you’re full of shite on your last paragraph. It’s how you feel though, so I’m not going to make a huge deal out of it.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:05 am to lsu777
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and so many of yall sit on here and complain about the government, then turn around and send you kids to government schools...wtf do you expect?
And if you do send your kids to public school, you’re still the parents. You should be teaching them to filter out what is useful, and what is harmful.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:08 am to HVAU
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I dealt with a similar scenario a few years ago with my kid (I’ve shared it before, but it wasn’t met with much acceptance). She told me, as a seventh grader, that she wanted to come out as a lesbian. I told her something like this, “I understand that you’re trying to discover who you are, and how to distinguish yourself as a unique individual. That’s something we all go through. A label like lesbian, though, carries a much greater social consequence than jock, band kid, bookworm, etc. So, if you get to the end of this road to self discovery, and lesbian is in fact who you are, I will support you, because I love you. But, for now, let’s not proclaim something to the world that may be hard to shake off if it turns out to not be who you are.”
It turns out she wasn’t gay, and, in my opinion, she’s a better person for having gone through a deep, intentional introspection about her identity. Some people don’t do that until their fourth marriage or their third heart attack.
I don't know why this was downvoted originally. Seems like a pretty damned good way to handle it. You didn't shut her down or degrade her. You listened to understand, then gave some wisdom that she definitely had not thought about and left the conclusion open to be determined later. Good job dude.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 10:12 am
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:08 am to HVAU
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And if you do send your kids to public school, you’re still the parents
Have you been following the issues at school board meetings where teachers are transitioning kids without parents knowledge?
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More than 3.2 million US public school students are covered by guidance that blocks parents from knowing whether their child identifies as a different gender in the classroom —
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:12 am to oogabooga68
quote:I think a grown person obsessing over sex with homeless men for more than a decade is pretty pathetic. But you do you.
Which is worse: Making fun of Liberal idiots who admit to having sex with bums, or having sex with bums?
I’m sure you’re super well-adjusted
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:13 am to HVAU
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And if you do send your kids to public school, you’re still the parents. You should be teaching them to filter out what is useful, and what is harmful.
Bingo. Not sure why parents are absolved from responsibility here.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:17 am to HVAU
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If you’re telling them to knock it off with no recognition of their agency, I think it’s probably less effective.
How much agency do you think a 12 year old possesses?
Of course you give rational reasons when they're capable of grasping them, but that's not always possible. You don't debate a 5 year old about getting a shot.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:18 am to Open Your Eyes
quote:. Why are you so emotional? When you calm down, maybe we can have a discussion.
Just how incredibly fricking stupid are you?
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attempting to downplay and normalize the gender bullshite.
How am I trying to normalize this? Your emotions have taken over and they’re preventing you from comprehending what you read. You seriously need to calm down. Take some deep breaths.
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