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re: Girlfriend’s 12 year old child hates Trump and thinks she’s trans

Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:19 am to
Posted by HVAU
Far, far away
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:19 am to
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Have you been following the issues at school board meetings


Yeah. I actually have school age kids and am engaged with their schools.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:20 am to
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How much agency do you think a 12 year old possesses?
. Probably enough agency to determine if they actually believe something or if they’re just regurgitating some strange idea they heard on TikTok.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by HVAU
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:25 am to
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How much agency do you think a 12 year old possesses? Of course you give rational reasons when they're capable of grasping them, but that's not always possible. You don't debate a 5 year old about getting a shot.


Maybe your 12 year old doesn’t have agency. I don’t know. Your statement seems to be comparing them to 5 year olds.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:27 am to
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Maybe your 12 year old doesn’t have agency. I don’t know. Your statement seems to be comparing them to 5 year olds.



The Pentagon medical staff says 9 year olds can transition. Schools are teaching gender ideology to kids of all ages, without parental consent.

Youre on the wrong side here chief, just trying to protect the unforgiveable.

Do you have children?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:29 am to
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Probably enough agency to determine if they actually believe something or if they’re just regurgitating some strange idea they heard on TikTok.


progressives continually prove that they believe there is no difference between children and adults, just to protect your shitty ideology.

When I was 12 I had no clue what the frick any of this was. I had much better teachers back in the day.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50476 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:31 am to
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Your honest contention is the trans BS arose out of changes in parenting, of schools?


Not changes in parenting, lack of parenting. Or abusive parents. I don’t know this for fact but I assume many/most females who want to be males are victims of sexual abuse and many/most males who want to females are simply porn addicts with a fetish or kink.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:32 am to
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Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:40 am to
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progressives continually prove that they believe there is no difference between children and adults, just to protect your shitty ideology.


So you love to make crazy assumptions that you desperately want to be true. Being able to determine if you actually believe something is not something only adults can do. If I ask my 4 year old if she’s Taylor Swift, she is more than capable of knowing that she isn’t. At four. I’m sure a 12 year old can figure out if they truly believe something or if they are being persuaded by peers of social media. If only this poor kid had an adult in her life to help her do this.

Why are you so bitter and dishonest? You gaslight people constantly.

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When I was 12 I had no clue what the frick any of this was. I had much better teachers back in the day.
and how do we know she heard this from a teacher? I keep asking and you keep refusing to answer. So it must be another one of your baseless assumptions that you desperately want to be true. You live in a fantasy world.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22110 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:44 am to
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Maybe your 12 year old doesn’t have agency. I don’t know. Your statement seems to be comparing them to 5 year olds.


No, I'm explaining that this isn't a digital issue, it's analog. You asked this question:
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Do you really want to do what’s right by this child and mother?

Then proceeded to act as if your actions in this one discrete example are the only correct ones. Not all harmful consequences are the same, not all 12 year olds are the same, and it's a huge grey area that parents will have to navigate using their best judgement.

How much harm is caused by a 12 year old deciding to be gay is not an objective matter; some parents will celebrate it and see zero harm, others not so much. Naturally those two sets of parents will have a different approach to the possibility and it's quite rational for them to have a different approach.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263119 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:49 am to
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and how do we know she heard this from a teacher?


Because activist teachers are transitioning kids behind parents backs.

They gay community has also taken over the youth center, boys and girls clubs and a host of others, to train kids how to be dysfunctional adults.

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Pennsylvania's Greater Johnstown School District recently announced a "gender transition plan" for students

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NEA Counsels School Districts to Hide Gender Transitions from Parents

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Calif. teacher helps students change names, pronouns without parents’ knowledge

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More mothers and fathers across the country are waking up to the shock that schools and government officials are promoting transgender ideology in the classroom and then “socially transitioning” confused children, sometimes even behind a wall of secrecy. “Gender support plans” put out by school administrators require school employees to use names and pronouns that align with a student’s gender identity instead of their biological sex.

One of the world’s leading experts on gender dysphoria in children, Dr. Kenneth Zucker, warns that this is “a psychosocial treatment that will increase the odds of long-term persistence” of cases of gender dysphoria.


There are literally thousands of these stories.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:50 am to
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Do you have children?


2nd time.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:53 am to
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Have you been following the issues at school board meetings where teachers are transitioning kids without parents knowledge?


no offense roger but i mean if you send your kid to government run schools...wtf do you expect?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50476 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:53 am to
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Because activist teachers are transitioning kids behind parents backs.
So, in other words, you desperately hope there is a teacher somewhere doing this to the girl but you actually are making a baseless assumption.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263119 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:56 am to
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So, in other words, you desperately hope there is a teacher


No, the odds are it was.

My granddaughters 4th grade teacher constantly went on anti trump rants and pushed gender ideology.

Its the primary way this disease is being spread to children.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50476 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:02 am to
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No, the odds are it was.
what are these odds based on? How were they calculated? You believe most teachers in America are teaching kids to be trans? You can’t be serious.

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My granddaughters 4th grade teacher constantly went on anti trump rants and pushed gender ideology.
1. I don’t believe this happened.

2. If we’re using anecdotes as evidence, none of my kids teachers have mentioned “Trump” to them. I have two kids who have had multiple teachers in their lives. They have no idea who or what a Trump is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263119 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:03 am to
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1. I don’t believe this happened.


Of course, youre horribly dishonest.


You have no interest in fact. Only fairy tales that support your activist beliefs.

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. If we’re using anecdotes as evidence,


Like you do? Constantly? Talking about your research and classes?
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 11:04 am
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:29 am to
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Why are you so emotional?

Accurately pointing out that you’re incredibly fricking stupid isn’t emotional. It’s a statement of fact.

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When you calm down, maybe we can have a discussion.

This is what you say when you have absolutely no response to what has been directed.

Meanwhile, stupid people that have sex with homeless guys are worthy of only ridicule, not discussion.

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How am I trying to normalize this?

It’s like you don’t even know what you post.

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Your emotions have taken over

Stupid people confuse facts with emotions.

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they’re preventing you from comprehending what you read.

You just can’t handle being called out on your general stupidity and overall shittiness as a person.

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You seriously need to calm down. Take some deep breaths.

You not liking it when a mirror is out in front of your face is not my problem, or anyone else’s for that matter.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263119 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:31 am to
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You just can’t handle being called out on your general stupidity and overall shittiness as a person.


Shes awfully dishonest. She has a couple dudes on here fooled though. If teachers arent making a difference one way or another, its time to replace them with AI.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 11:36 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50476 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:40 am to
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Accurately pointing out that you’re incredibly fricking stupid isn’t emotional. It’s a statement of fact.
right. Because this is exactly how rational adults communicate.

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This is what you say when you have absolutely no response to what has been directed.

What kind of response were you expecting to calling me stupid laced with profanity? I know you are but what am I?



The only things you ever post to me are words calling me names laced with profanity with no actually substance. That’s why I just ignore you like the petulant child you are. I don’t engage with emotional fools.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 11:44 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50476 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 11:43 am to
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You have no interest in fact. Only fairy tales that support your activist beliefs.


like the “fact” that most teachers in America are teaching kids to be trans?


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Like you do? Constantly? Talking about your research and classes?


Well research doesn’t qualify as anecdotes. But sure. I guess you must admire my posting style if you’re imitating it?

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