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Giglio Violation... Flynn may get out of charges
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:09 pm
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Did the prosecution tell Flynn’s lawyer that their main witness against him was removed for bias? Since Strzok led the interview and his testimony would be needed to establish untruthfulness, he is a critical witness not just a prosecutor. If not disclosed, would this not be a Giglio violation? This is the kind of misconduct that can get a case dismissed and a lawyer disbarred. It is a Constitutional violation. This has bothered me since I heard about it.
If not. Case will be dismissed.
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:11 pm to Jjdoc
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Flynn
I m wondering if his testimony didnt help flush out the one or two Penis Strokers left...
Almost like they knew this would be the result.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:12 pm to Jjdoc
i wish trump and flynn would walk out of this laughing and say they had planned it all along. it would be the greatest troll job of all time. dems would collectively go melissa click
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:13 pm to Jjdoc
Entrapment. Flynn was witch hunt.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:18 pm to Jjdoc
The delusions are abundant.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:20 pm to Jjdoc
That would be beyond sweet justice if Flynn escapes charges because of impropriety from the SC. 
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:21 pm to zunic
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zunic
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:23 pm to Jjdoc
unfortunately no matter what happens, or whatever illegalities committed by prosecutors, it doesnt matter.
once you plead guilty thats it, you cant go back and change your mind no matter how corrupted the whole process actually was. a plea ends it, right then and there no matter what comes up later.
once you plead guilty thats it, you cant go back and change your mind no matter how corrupted the whole process actually was. a plea ends it, right then and there no matter what comes up later.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:24 pm to Jjdoc
quote:There is no case. He plead GUILTY!
If not. Case will be dismissed.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:27 pm to NC_Tigah
I believe a guilty plea can be withdrawn if he hasn't been sentence.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:28 pm to KosmoCramer
Yeah, no doubt he would have had a great case going forward, but he took the easy way out, the cheapest way out, too..
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:30 pm to NC_Tigah
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There is no case. He plead GUILTY!
uh, Ahem
quote:
The term Giglio material is sometimes used to refer to any information pertaining to deals that witnesses in a criminal case may have entered into with the government.
The Supreme Court held that, regardless of whether the failure to disclose was intentional or negligent, disclosing the information remained the responsibility of the prosecutor in its position as spokesman for the government. The Court held that due process required that Giglio be granted a new trial, and reversed and remanded
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:31 pm to Jjdoc
There are some very good theories out there showing a precise timeline that everything from Flynn’s appointment to his plea was an elaborate COINTELPRO to smoke out Mueller’s people, and it worked. Flynn’s counterpart who stayed on has access to all the raw SIGINT from NSA. That’s how they got Strzok’s texts 
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:32 pm to Jjdoc
You guys need to read up on what the process of pleading guilty to something actually entails.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:35 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
The term Giglio material is sometimes used to refer to any information pertaining to deals that witnesses in a criminal case may have entered into with the government.
The Supreme Court held that, regardless of whether the failure to disclose was intentional or negligent, disclosing the information remained the responsibility of the prosecutor in its position as spokesman for the government. The Court held that due process required that Giglio be granted a new trial, and reversed and remanded
quote:Well well.
RobbBobb
So despite the guilty plea, he could still get off?
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:35 pm to boosiebadazz
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You guys need to read up on what the process of pleading guilty to something actually entails.
So do you.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:36 pm to NC_Tigah
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deals that witnesses in a criminal case may have entered into with the government.
Except Strozk didn’t enter into a deal with the government regarding criminal charges.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:37 pm to KosmoCramer
Putting aside the fact that Strozk didn’t enter into ah agreemebtbwith the government regarding a reduction in criminal charges for himself, let’s just entertain your hypo.
How does Flynn get passt him certifying and verifying the factual basis of the plea is true?
How does Flynn get passt him certifying and verifying the factual basis of the plea is true?
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:39 pm to boosiebadazz
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boosiebadazz
I don’t think the plea is the issue here.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:40 pm to OTIS2
Isn’t Giglio for cooperating witnesses? Tondisclose their deal to let the jury take it into account regarding their credibility?
If so, how is that in play with a plea? It’s been awhile since criminal procedure so I could be wrong, but I think even Brady violations may be even excused when the defendant pleas
If so, how is that in play with a plea? It’s been awhile since criminal procedure so I could be wrong, but I think even Brady violations may be even excused when the defendant pleas
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