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Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:38 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:38 am
Now these are the immigrants we should be grabbing. The producers, small business owners, people likely to vote GOP.

Dr. Rainer Zitelmann in Townhall:

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Twenty-one percent of young Germans between the ages of 14 and 29 are making concrete plans to leave Germany. Forty-one percent can at least imagine doing so. Even among the population as a whole, one in five is considering emigrating. Of course, not everyone who says they are thinking about emigrating actually leaves. But many do – and their numbers are growing.

In 2024, 269,986 Germans left the country. For years, the figure has remained steady at just over a quarter of a million per year. This is not a new phenomenon: Among German citizens, the net migration balance has been negative for more than two decades. In other words, more Germans consistently leave the country than German returnees come back. In 2024, the net loss was 81,000; last year, it was 97,000.

The troubling part is that those who leave are predominantly highly qualified: 75 percent have a university degree. “It is,” Alexander Steffen writes in his recently published book “Goodbye Deutschland”, “the qualified, those with language skills, those with options, those who are needed elsewhere and are not dependent on Germany.” And it is not just those who actually emigrate, but also those who have already mentally checked out of the country. “When it is precisely these people who are mentally quitting, that is not a character flaw on their part. It is the price a country pays for believing for too long that it can milk achievement, lecture people about freedom, and regard success with suspicion without ever having to pay the bill.”....

“Germany,” Steffen writes, “does not have a problem with the quantity of migration; it has a problem with quality. Too often, it keeps and financially supports people who burden its system, while losing or driving away people who would make the country stronger.”...

What motivates the young people the author spoke with? The fundamental complaint is that the state demands a great deal from them and takes a great deal away from them, while providing less and less in return. Florian is 33, comes from Hamburg, and worked in his family’s business. He is now planning to move to Doha. “He comes from the chemical and construction industries, a world in which regulations, labeling requirements, liability rules, and supply chains determine the working day. When he said that he was treated like a criminal here, he did not sound angry, but exhausted.” The final straw was a hefty fine because one out of 5,000 products had been incorrectly labeled due to a completely irrelevant printing error. “A state that punishes a minor mistake more harshly than it ever rewards success has got its incentives backwards.”

Tobias came to Switzerland for an internship and stayed. For working five additional hours a week, he earns twice the net salary and gets an apartment on top of that. But for him and the other people Steffen interviewed, it is not primarily about such figures. It is about a feeling: Working there is simply more enjoyable, he says, because he experiences appreciation not only from his employer but throughout society. Germany, he adds, is not a country he would associate with that word.

Jan is 38, comes from Bavaria, and now lives in Bulgaria, where the tax burden is ten percent. But for him and many others, the following applies: “In the end, they did not flee high taxes, but the deep-seated mistrust that almost automatically comes into play in Germany whenever someone has the audacity to build something of their own. The tax bill was merely the tangible manifestation of a sense of alienation that had actually been there for a long time.”...

Steffen’s conversations with the self-employed and small business owners can be summed up as follows: “They did not fail because a form was too long, but because they felt that the state treated them as adversaries rather than as the people who help pay for the whole system.” At some point, people stop fighting that feeling and start looking for alternatives.

A successful tennis player who now lives in the United States says: “In the U.S., I experienced for the first time that success is not something to be embarrassed about. In Germany, people are quick to ask whether you might be wanting too much. In America, they are more likely to ask how big you want to make it.”...




Townhall.com
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:41 am to
The cancer of leftist ideology has killed Western Europe.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:42 am to

Where are they going?

Poland?
Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:43 am to
How bout no. We don’t want any more immigrants. How many of those young Germans are just Muslim anchor babies?
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Twenty-one percent of young Germans between the ages of 14 and 29 are making concrete plans to leave Germany.



Adolf is rolling in his South American grave.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:44 am to
None, dumbass.

Y'all bitch about the browning of America and third world moving in but then don't want to do what it takes to reverse it besides deportations.
Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:53 am to
Nah. You know that’s BS. The immigrants in Germany aren’t going back to the 3rd world once AFD takes over. We don’t need anybody.

You can trust maybe 3 European countries at this point, and Germany ain’t one.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 12:06 pm to
One advantage young Germans have coming to the U.S. is the ease of learning English. A lot of our words have Germanic origins.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 12:23 pm to
You're a simpleton.


There is going to be a proportion of the population of these countries that are conservative and productive. Those are the ones we want.
Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 12:42 pm to
If we’re importing actual conservative Germans who want freedom. Fine. Would still rather see Americans having more kids.

There’s no system currently available to vet these Germans. If we’re going to pull something like this we need to establish that first. This isn’t 1990 Germany we’re dealing with.

It would make total sense for European countries to dump their unwanteds just like the entirety of South America did.
Posted by stelly1025
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Where are they going?

Poland?


Austria, Switzerland, US, Singapore. They wouldn't go to Poland ,because the cost of living is the same and salary is about half of what you would make in Germany. Plus all my Polish tenants that live here in Germany say it takes weeks just to get an X-ray. Poland is poor.
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:09 pm to
The German workers have been moving to East Europe for decades now.
Lithuania is a favorite destination.

Vilnius.
Posted by BCvol
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

The troubling part is that those who leave are predominantly highly qualified: 75 percent have a university degree.


Nope
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Where are they going?

Poland?

There is a metric frick ton here in Croatia. They started coming for vacation, but over time many stayed.
Posted by uggabugga
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

One advantage young Germans have coming to the U.S. is the ease of learning English. A lot of our words have Germanic origins.

The majority of young Germans already speak excellent English.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:05 pm to
I’ll take Germans over almost anyone coming to the USA.
Posted by oldskule
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 4:07 pm to
The UK demise will spread across Europe.....

More the reason for the USA to stand firm....
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 4:18 pm to
Heck yeah. I love German food after being stationed there back in the early aughts. I ate schweinshaxe last night. Excellent stuff.


Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

The majority of young Germans already speak excellent English.



Speak it better than most Americans.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
4167 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 5:26 pm to
^^^^^^^^^^^
This is unfortunately very true.
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