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General Michael Flynn offers Trump advice on how to proceed with the Russia/Ukraine war.

Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:55 pm
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1. While most of America remains blissfully uninformed by our establishment press, the world's two greatest superpowers are being manipulated by Dark Forces inside and outside our government, into a major military confrontation that no country wants, and no sane person would ever want.

2. I have no role in the Trump Administration, but over a long career in the active uniformed military, specifically military intelligence, I have made it a point to cultivate many sources of information around the world. From what I can piece together, I want to share my deep concerns about who is behind this march to war, and my recommendations for how our nation and the West can avoid a major military confrontation with Russia.

3. I believe that the American Deep State is staffed by those with a deep, visceral, and irrational hatred for Russia, and these persons have conspired to box in President Trump's decision making through the Russiagate Hoax. During the time the Soviet Union was expanding and infiltrating our government, I was an outspoken anti-communist, but, despite the lies told by our Deep State, Russia is not the Soviet Union and Putin is not Stalin. Even today, years after the Russiagate Hoax has been exposed, President Trump's efforts to bring peace are met with resistance. The Establishment Press, deeply influenced and even sometimes controlled by our Deep State, labeled President Trump and those who work for him "Putin's Puppets" to goad him into taking unwarranted and aggressive steps against Russia. These voices from the establishment press reflect the views of the Deep State, not the American People, and not the MAGA movement, and should be completely disregarded, if not mocked.

4. During almost all of the post-World War II period, and certainly since the establishment of the CIA in 1947, these unelected dark establishment forces have acted to destabilize the world, bringing death, famine, assassinations, violence, coups, riots, revolutions, and destruction to our planet. Currently, these forces are working to provoke Russia into a major --- perhaps a final --- military conflict with the West.

5. This provocation has many forms. Most recently, it involves the surprise drone attack on the Russian federation strategic arsenal, said to affect 40 bombers, or about a third of Russia's strategic bomber fleet. Since Russian and American strategic bombers are generally required by agreement to be visible to satellite surveillance, never before has anyone engaged in an attack on these visible targets. If Russian bombers can be attacked with impunity, so can American bombers. By this action, the Ukrainian Government has not just weakened Russia, it has jeopardized America. Thus, those in the Ukrainian government who ordered these strikes have made themselves enemies not just of Russia, but of the United States. Making matters worse, this unwarranted attack was followed by Ukrainian attacks on the Kerch Strait Bridge connecting Russia and Crimea.

6. I do not believe that the recent escalation against Russia's strategic bomber fleet was authorized by or coordinated with President Trump. Rather, it is my view that the Deep State is now acting outside of the control of the elected leadership of our nation. I believe that these persons in our Deep State are engaged in a deliberate effort to provoke Russia into a major confrontation with the West, including the United States. The time is now to take aggressive action against those who abuse their authority as government employees to manipulate the elected leadership of our nation.

7. Growing up in an Irish Democrat family in Rhode Island, I was only about five when John Kennedy was assassinated, but our family viewed John Kennedy as a hero. Not just for my family, one of our most beloved Presidents, John F. Kennedy, in 1961, found himself manipulated by earlier versions of these same Deep State forces when they attempted to manipulate President Kennedy to launch Air Force planes to attack Cuba after the failed invasion, resulting in an open conflict with both Cuba and the Soviet Union. In President Kennedy's June 1963 speech at American University declaring his vision of peace with the Soviet Union, he declared himself to be an enemy of this Deep State, which by all indications then retaliated by participating in his assassination five months later in Dallas. The American Deep State is not only a threat to peace, but a threat to the President.

8. President Trump has already faced at least two assassination attempts. If there is one person who I believe has the character and love for our nation to rid our government of these forces, it is President Trump. After the shooting in Butler, Pennsylvania, President Trump displayed the type of personal courage that those of us who have served in the military deeply admire. With great affection for the President, I now urge him to risk the wrath of the Deep State once again by taking actions to purge enemies of our nation within our agencies and departments. Removing such persons from power is absolutely necessary to achieve the type of peace he described during his campaign and the beginning of his Administration.

9. Once President Kennedy realized he was being manipulated, and opposed because he sought peace, he removed Allen Dulles as Director of Central Intelligence, and several of his assistants. I urge President Trump to immediately clean house of any in government who had prior knowledge of or participated in any way in the Ukrainian attack on the Russian federation strategic bombers, and to go further by immediately declaring an end to any support for the Ukraine War. President Trump is right: this is not "his" War. I urge him to recall all open and covert military and other government personnel from Ukraine. I urge him to have all those personnel removed and interrogated by the FBI or the military to learn of their possible participation in unauthorized military activities. Any Americans who have aided and abetted Ukraine's attacks should be investigated for violation of American law, and prosecuted as necessary.

10. I also believe President Trump should distance himself from certain Western leaders such as German Chancellor Fred Merz, who have acted and spoken in an irresponsible manner with respect to the Ukraine War. If there are countries in Europe who wish to provide military assistance to Ukraine, that is their concern, and they should not be surprised by President Putin’s response to their actions against Russia. If such leaders want to lead their nations to war by persisting in such irresponsible behavior, they will go it alone.

11. I urge President Trump to also distance himself from demonstrated war mongers in our own government, chief among whom is U.S. Senator Lindsay Graham. Those who love wars fought by others are no friends of America, and have no entitlement to be friends of the President.

12. Finally, I urge the American people to stand prayerfully and resolutely with President Trump as he cleans house and acts in pursuit of the type of peace which President Kennedy embraced. Peace is not the normal state of man. Freedom requires a price be paid by every generation. It is time to recommit our nation to both.



Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18562 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:57 pm to
Cut off Ukraine. The United States should not be in the business of supporting dictators like Z.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Cut off Ukraine. The United States should not be in the business of supporting dictators like Z.


Immediately
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:00 pm to
Hopefully President Trump takes his advice. Because currently, Lindsey Graham is in control. I just read something about if the Senate Sanctions bill is passed Trump would still have control on whether or not it is implemented. Please tell me President Trump is not going to fall for this, as soon as that Sanctions bill is passed the MSM and elites will call Trump a Putin puppet if he does not implement the Sanctions. He cannot be this Naive
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90776 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:04 pm to
arse cancer for you.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24024 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Cut off Ukraine. The United States should not be in the business of supporting dictators like Z.


So when it's all said and done, did the CIA provide extracurricular information to Ukraine? In addition, it's obvious there were people in Russia (Russians) who helped pull this off.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 4:10 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23831 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:05 pm to
Too many words to simply say:
Get the frick out of the Ukraine war. Trump possesses the plenary power to stop ALL payments to Ukraine and stop this madness.

Im not the only one to be wondering, where is Trump? What happened to his strong stance for America First???
Im not sure what it would take to withdraw from NATO, but it must happen. We the people voted for something different.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Hopefully President Trump takes his advice. Because currently, Lindsey Graham is in control


Graham is doing what he wants. As you’ve seen Trump knows they’re over there but Graham isn’t Trump puppet like some have claimed. Graham has been going over there since before Trump was President, even the first time. I do think Trump needs to cut all ties to Graham because it’s hurting him or appearing he’s fine with it when apparently that isn’t true.
Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
2511 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Lindsey Graham is in control.








Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

 I do think Trump needs to cut all ties to Graham because it’s hurting him or appearing he’s fine with it when apparently that isn’t true.


I agree, the optics are terrible not to mention Lindsey Graham is hated by us MAGA originals so not only is it bad FP but bad politics for Trump
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:11 pm to
Y’all think Sergey Kislyak dictated that to Mike Flynn over the phone?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:13 pm to
And like I told you the other day, you’re free to post whatever but the second there is a small win in sniffing distance for the bots, they’ll blow it up until it’s proven wrong a few days later. You know Trump didn’t send Graham over there as well. He’s been going there ever since he’s been in office. He’s the reason why they’re at war and how it escalated out of control after Trump got out of office.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167597 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:15 pm to
I question why Flynn is back to revival weekends with Patrick Byrne of all shady characters...

But this write up is 100% spot-on.

A very large purge needs to happen quickly or we are done.

They seem deeply embedded within the DoD, NSA, CIA, and even FBI and State Dept. with blackmailed neocons as their voices. They are truly desperate.

How does DJT purge this?
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
654 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:16 pm to
So, Russia can strike Ukraine with impunity with the same bombers Flynn argues should be completely off limits…

This is a war for Ukraine’s survival, nothings off the table when the threat is existential. If an outside force was occupying and annexing 20%+ of Russia’s territory, you better believe the gloves would come off.
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2304 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:16 pm to
It's amazing how many people want to reference 'Dark Forces' when the guy who thought up, orchestrated, planned, and executed the war is standing right in front of everybody:

Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55351 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:18 pm to
IMHO, Trump is going to stand with Lindsey Graham in fighting Russia because Graham has informed Trump that if Russia wins, Trump will take the full and complete blame.

Trump doesn't want that.

This war will continue and IMHO will still be going when Trump leaves office.
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
2008 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:23 pm to
Do you people really believe President Trump,who has a 156 IQ, isn’t one step ahead of all those clowns.He is giving them all enough rope to hang themselves.DT plays chess not checkers.He has been in office for 4 months and he’s just getting started.The only thing that will stop him will be a bullet, so pray for his protection.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32762 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:23 pm to
Shorter Flynn: Russia is the real victim here
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
2322 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:25 pm to
Thank you for your service, General, and for your continued insight and courage to share it so openly after all the $hit they put your family through. Flynn is the real deal.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Y’all think Sergey Kislyak dictated that to Mike Flynn over the phone?


I don't.

Do you think he did?
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