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re: Gay marriage needs to be next
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:43 am to PrattvilleTiger
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:43 am to PrattvilleTiger
quote:I hear that "touring musicians" tend to do so.
there's probably plenty of men that post on the Rant that have a secret profile on Grindr....
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:46 am to LieutenantBookman
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Or have you been living under a rock in regards to children attending gay strip clubs or the chemical castration of 5 year olds?
None of this was made necessary by Obergefell and should be settled in their own right by their own cases, the outcome of which should be similar to the abortion debate: return to state legislatures for decision-making. Much of the issues in the trans debate stems from regulatory agencies pushing policies without input from lawmakers. West Virginia vs EPA has the potential to put an end to that forever.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:48 am to LieutenantBookman
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:57 am to Flats
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You seem to think that morality isn't a legitimate reason for a law
No I'm saying that the "morality" arguments in this thread have not come close to giving a rational basis for the unequal treatment.
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plenty of laws based on moral norms.
Which have more rationalization than just "muh morality".
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Age of consent, nudity laws; I could go on and on.
Go on and there will be rational reasons behind generic justifications and emotional thinking. That's why the standard is "rational" and not "emotional":
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:57 am to LieutenantBookman
Once you incorporate marriage and have the federal government involved, you open the door to decisions like Obergefell
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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Go on and there will be rational reasons behind generic justifications and emotional thinking. That's why the standard is "rational" and not "emotional":
Using only logic, and not your morality, tell me why I cant have an orgy in the park or walk down the sidewalk nude.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:00 am to Flats
quote:Sanitation.
Using only logic, and not your morality, tell me why I cant have an orgy in the park or walk down the sidewalk nude.
No one wants your baby batter on the teeter-totter.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:05 am to Flats
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Using only logic, and not your morality
I never said morality had no place in the discussion. That's a straw man argument.
I said that within this thread, the morality-based arguments didn't come close to a rational justification.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:10 am to LieutenantBookman
I am pretty conservative and I do not care if gay people want to get married. Who cares!
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:11 am to AggieHank86
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Sanitation.
Oh, so then an LED billboard showing hard porn would be ok, then. Or I could just have an orgy in my front yard. Right? Surely you live by your signature and don't want to force your morality on me, even though you've already admitted you'd use coercion to stop a child from going to a strip show.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:11 am to hashtag
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instead of attacking Gay marriage, we need to get the government away from all marriages. Marriage shouldn't be defined by federal, state or local governments. It's defined by God, not man.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:13 am to UpToPar
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Thomas agrees and mentioned that in his concurrence: After pointing out that substantive due process is an oxymoron he stated:
Why do you think he left interracial marriage off his list?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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I said that within this thread, the morality-based arguments didn't come close to a rational justification.
No morality based arguments will ever be a purely rational justification; that's my point. Yet we have laws based on moral norms. We always have and we always will. If you can't provide a rational justification for why men can go topless but women can't, or why some skin is ok to expose but some isn't, then why are you asking for one regarding the definition of marriage?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:14 am to Bawwitdabaw
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get used to it
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:19 am to Flats
quote:Dude, it was a joke. Lighten up.
Flats
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:20 am to LieutenantBookman
Can they make it and decide it before the end of pride month?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Loving was? Do tell
Did you and Hank become illiterate today?
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