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re: Garland does not think attacking fed buildings is terrorism as long as it is done at night
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:29 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:29 pm to AggieHank86
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So, he was drawing a distinction between (i) attacking a governmental building during the business day, with the specific intent of interfering with the business of government and (ii) attacking an empty building at night ... while also acknowledging that both actions would constitute serious crimes?
Destroying a building during the day or night will stop business from happening. The time doesnt matter. If i blow up target while its closed, its not opening in the morning.
And he said the bombing of the capitol. Which is wrong.
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:29 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Senator Graham asked a legitimate question ... would Garland prosecute certain action, in essence. Senator Hawley then grandstanded by inserting emotional language with no statutory definition.
we currently don't have a federal statute that defines domestic terrorism.
Then the OP completely mischaracterized the man's answer, which is OF COURSE exactly what Hawley wanted people to do. It is why Hawley asked the question.
I hate politicians.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:30 pm to jimmy the leg
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Not that I am suggesting anything nefarious, I am simply trying to interpret his moronic deflection. So according to this asshat, if the courthouse were blown up at night, it would be fully functioning (magically) the next day. So the courthouse in Portland never had one second of unscheduled downtime due to Korstand’s friends? I would have guessed otherwise.
No, you see by burning at night, they didn't have the specific intent to interfere with Govt business. They were just trying to get the Govt employees to spend more time outside
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:50 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Calling someone a domestic terrorist does nothing from a legal standpoint.
My arse. Ask Timothy McVeigh; guy had to have set the modern record for conviction to death penalty time frame. Calling someone a domestic terrorist has a huge political impact, and if you think that's divorced from the legal proceedings you're dumber than you act.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:50 pm to AggieHank86
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Senator Graham asked a legitimate question ... would Garland prosecute certain action, in essence. Senator Hawley then grandstanded by inserting emotional language with no statutory definition.
Then the OP completely mischaracterized the man's answer, which is OF COURSE exactly what Hawley wanted people to do. It is why Hawley asked the question.
I hate politicians.
Bingo
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:52 pm to AggieHank86
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I hate politicians.
Then you must hate Garland and every other DA across the nation using politics to influence how they enforce the law.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:54 pm to AggieHank86
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I hate politicians.
Literally hate speech.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:58 pm to Flats
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My arse. Ask Timothy McVeigh; guy had to have set the modern record for conviction to death penalty time frame. Calling someone a domestic terrorist has a huge political impact, and if you think that's divorced from the legal proceedings you're dumber than you act.
Funny you mention that. Merrick Garland was one of the main people who handled the investigation and prosecution of Timothy McVeigh.
https://www.npr.org/2016/04/19/474689286/out-of-the-horror-in-oklahoma-city-merrick-garland-forged-the-way-forward
And again...all I am talking about are the ramifications IN COURT. I'm not talking about the political motivations or decisions regarding who is targeted for prosecution. I'm simply discussing what laws people would be charged and prosecuted under.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:59 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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And again...all I am talking about are the ramifications IN COURT.
I'm well aware of your coy act. We both know why Garland said what he said, and it's absolutely a reflection of what will happen IN COURT.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:05 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
What about pounding on doors of federal courthouses in an attempt to stop the swearing in of a duly confirmed SCOTUS nominee? Does that not count?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:06 pm to Flats
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I'm well aware of your coy act. We both know why Garland said what he said, and it's absolutely a reflection of what will happen IN COURT.
I mean...he testified today that he would prosecute crimes like what occurred in Portland.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:07 pm to TideCPA
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What about pounding on doors of federal courthouses in an attempt to stop the swearing in of a duly confirmed SCOTUS nominee? Does that not count?
There were over 200 arrests during those protests.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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“An attack on a courthouse while in operation, trying to prevent judges from trying cases, that plainly is domestic extremism, domestic terrorism,” Garland said. “An attack simply on a government property at night or under other circumstances is a clear crime, and a serious one, and should be punished.”
He's differentiating between the two, and is a fricking moron in doing so.
As you are if you agree.
This is where you retards get that "right wing terrorism is the greatest threat" simply because you don't believe rioting, looting and killing on the left is terrorism.
Organized political chaos that destroys lives or property is terrorism and there is FAR more left wing terrorist than right wing.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:11 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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that he would prosecute crimes like what occurred in Portland.
But said they were lesser than the crime of 1/6.
6 cops were killed this summer by left wing terrorists, more than 20 people total.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:12 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:And how do their charges compare to those from 1/6? Based on Garland's definition why were they charged with simple disorderly conduct and not terrorism? They were attacking muh institutions to stop a body of government from fulfilling a constitutional responsibility.
There were over 200 arrests during those protests.
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Hawley: "Are attacks against federal property domestic terrorism?"
Garland: "Attacks designed to stop a body of government from fulfilling a constitutional responsibility certainly are"
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:13 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Hard to tell him from Amy Commie Barret or Brett Commienaugh now.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This is where you retards get that "right wing terrorism is the greatest threat" simply because you don't believe rioting, looting and killing on the left is terrorism.
Honestly, I couldn't care less what we call "terrorism."
If you riot, loot, destroy property, kill, etc. you should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
If you were involved in the crimes committed on Jan 6th, you should also be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:15 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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What about pounding on doors of federal courthouses in an attempt to stop the swearing in of a duly confirmed SCOTUS nominee? Does that not count?
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There were over 200 arrests during those protests.
Didn’t the DA drop every single case?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:15 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Honestly, I couldn't care less what we call "terrorism."
It's exactly what you're arguing in this thread. Did you read the OP correctly?
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Garland does not think attacking fed buildings is terrorism as long as it is done at night
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:18 pm to TideCPA
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And how do their charges compare to those from 1/6? Based on Garland's definition why were they charged with simple disorderly conduct and not terrorism? They were attacking muh institutions to stop a body of government from fulfilling a constitutional responsibility.
You're missing my entire point. There isn't a charge for "domestic terrorism." Even Timothy McVeigh wasn't charged with terrorism. He was charged with:
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conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction, use of a weapon of mass destruction, destruction with the use of explosives, and eight counts of first-degree murder for the deaths of law enforcement officers
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